Things that make you go.......WTF?

[stui magpie]

^

That's what he said.

[Pi]

This is why universities are doomed,

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=7711

perhaps sanity will prevail and STEM universities will be completely separate from SJW sheltered work shops

[David]

[Pi]

on the surface that may seem reasonable to conclude that maths is not needed for any of the 'studies' social science disciplines, but that ignores the fact that they make heavy use of statistics to try and prove many of their theories. If one does not learn to do maths and statistical analysis properly then the conclusions will be rubbish, and most of them are

Most engineers get more diversity training / experience on in large projects than many of the social science professors get in a lifetime in academia.

haven't read it yet but this one might be a good read.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSXcGYnYVCI

[Mugwump]

^ it depends on what the maths unit covers. The article says that many of the health care workers cannot make the calculations they require for their roles. If that does not alarm you, put a drip in your arm with a measured dose in it. So I could accept that every graduate should have a core working level skill with basic arithmetic, algebra and statistics. That seems to be what is proposed, and i'd have thought it is unarguable. They do not have to have high mathematics like calculus, advanced trig, field theory etc.

Though I think the diversity religion is a silly intellectual fashion, I have no real objection to ensuring that people understand the importance of being open to alternative perspectives and recognizing their cognitive filters. This should be called something like the roots of inquiry, however, not diversity, as diversity has too much political loading, and it'll be captured and exploited iby the commissars of the new Left, because that is what they do.

[Morrigu]

^ it depends on what the maths unit covers. The article says that many of the health care workers cannot make the calculations they require for their roles. If that does not alarm you, put a drip in your arm with a measured dose in it.

I neither know nor care what the Septics do but I can assure you you will not get a Bachelor of Nursing or midwifery in this country ( let alone medicine) without being able to pass units of calculations ( maybe not pure Math per se but basic calculation knowledge and ability)

And then when you start employment ( at least in public health services) you will be required to pass a mandatory competency in medication calcs and the pass rate is 100% with a defined performance management pathway if you do not achieve this. And for most health services this is an annual requirement for all nurses and midwives regardless of experience or grading!

And when I was in ICU it was a bi annual requirement as we often had 8 or more central lines delivering drugs @ rates of mcg/kg/min.

[Mugwump]

^ yes, it is anAmerican article, Morrigu, so It should be seen in that light. I'm not suprised that Australian nurses have that requirement within their training.

The broader point, which is still valid, is that anyone with a tertiary degree should be expected to have familiarity with the fundamentals of mathematics. There are few jobs anywhere that do not require some fundamental mathematics.

[David]

^ Are you aware of any Australian (or British) university that makes this a requirement, though? I've certainly never come across it in any of the degrees I've studied.

I think we need to be slating the responsibility for basic maths teaching home to high schools and primary schools, where it belongs. Of course I'm happy for universities to offer basic remedial maths courses where required, but (as someone who got high marks in maths in high school but chose not to pursue it at tertiary level) I would have seen it as a major waste of time and resources to do a maths unit as part of my writing and editing degree. University is about specialisation, not general learning.

[Morrigu]

https://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/a/3363845 ... ion/#page1

A quick-thinking tradesman risked his life to stop a man from potentially blowing up petrol bowsers with a cigarette lighter in Melbourne's west.

CCTV footage shows a man walking up to service station bowser.

He picks up the fuel pump, and holding a cigarette lighter in his right hand, tries to set the bowser alight.

When it fails to ignite, he angrily throws the pump onto the ground and moves to another.

A tradesman spots him on his second attempt, and launches into action.

The good Samaritan pulls a fire extinguisher from the front of the bowser, walks up to the man and douses him with fire retardent foam.

He then chases the offender away from the service station in a haze of foam.

"It looked like he was trying to burn the place down," he told 7 News.

"If he had have lit the petrol, I imagine most of us probably would have died or been pretty severely injured."

He said he tried to report the incident to two different police stations, but was told they were too short-staffed at the time to take a statement.

He later reported it to a third, in Melbourne's north west, but the tradie said the response he received was inadequate.

Police told 7 News they would not be investigating the incident as nobody was injured and no damage was reported.

WTF?????

[swoop42]

^Seriously WTF.

So if you travel 5km over the speed limit without hurting anyone you'll be fined.

Try to blow up a petrol station.

As you were.

Stupid cops.

[luvdids]

You've got to be kidding!

As I'm finding out more & more, social media is the way to go - maybe the Vic Pol facebook page could do with this. Since, you know, when the guy actually succeeds, who's going to look like idiots for brushing it off at the first attempt?!

[luvdids]

This whole Channel 7 CEO affair story has had me intrigued for the last few days. Still not sure which 'side' I'm on - probably his - she was happy to have an affair with him then when she didn't get paid enough to keep quiet she blabbed to the media.

Now it's taken a turn with a website publishing the names of the other women to supposedly have had relations with Tim Worner. While reading this site (to sticky beak into who they were I'll admit) whoever writes this article seems a little strange... Can you really refer to a judge as "the bribe-taking Justice Stephen Campbell whose criminal conduct I have a long history of writing about which he knows"?? WTF?

https://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/20 ... legations/

Seems at though, even though he's been court ordered to, he's not going to delete the names.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... orner.html

Best soapie 7 have produced for years!

[think positive]

The Christmas video on the Collingwood website!
Cringe cringe cringe

Surely there was 1, just 1? Footyhighlight to add!
Oh wait Daniels handpass was pretty accurate!

[Mugwump]

^ Are you aware of any Australian (or British) university that makes this a requirement, though? I've certainly never come across it in any of the degrees I've studied.

I think we need to be slating the responsibility for basic maths teaching home to high schools and primary schools, where it belongs. Of course I'm happy for universities to offer basic remedial maths courses where required, but (as someone who got high marks in maths in high school but chose not to pursue it at tertiary level) I would have seen it as a major waste of time and resources to do a maths unit as part of my writing and editing degree. University is about specialisation, not general learning.

Fair enough. My point is that a graduate in any academic discipline ought to have a basic competence in mathematics and statistics. It should be achieved at school level as you say, but since many of our schools are poor at delivering skills, I suppose universities may need to provide remedial lessons.

[stui magpie]

^ Are you aware of any Australian (or British) university that makes this a requirement, though? I've certainly never come across it in any of the degrees I've studied.

How many degrees have you got?