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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 5:24 pm
by Daks
Sorry, but shouldn't this topic be in the Trade board?

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:32 pm
by Cam
McGough can't kick for shit. Other teams would point this out and offer nothing for him. Lose Lose situation.

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:36 pm
by Daniel
have u seen Licuria's kicking lately?

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:39 pm
by Daks
Yes, and it's alot better than McGough's. You'd find that Licca hits targets more often than not.

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:42 pm
by Daniel
so does McGough.... cept most people like yourself seem to only witness the shockers.

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:43 pm
by Daks
Sorry, but he doesn't. The only time he hits targets is if he kicks it short. Look, don't get me wrong, i love McGough and i'd love to see him stay, but i just think his kicking needs a little work.

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:48 pm
by Daniel
Sure it does. But watch a copy of some of our games and look for McGough's kicking.... u'll realise it's not worse than Licca's. Infact he's kicked a few extremely difficult goals.... from memory against Melbourne and errrr.... Hawthorn I think.... not sure about the latter, but it was on the boundary however.

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:51 pm
by Daks
Yeah, and Licca has too. You'd find that most of McGoughs effective kicks have been short. I'd much rather Licuria be having a shot at goal to win the game than McGough. It's clear that his kicking needs fixing.. you're blind if you can't see that.

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:52 pm
by labrooy
Daniel,

Those "difficult" goals would be even better value if he kicked the easy ones as well.

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:54 pm
by Daniel
sure, but he would have kicked as many difficult ones as the easy ones he missed.... why? he had the ball, which he is best at finding.

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:56 pm
by spoljar
Speaking of kicking, although I agree that Woe had a pretty good game last night, I thought his kicking was crap. Did anyone alse notice that out of the 5 or so clearances he had out of the middle last night, every single one went:
1. Straight across the ground to the wing.
2. 30m up and 30 m straight down.

What is the point of clearing the ball if it's no where near to your advantage. I really don't think he should ever start in the middle. He is far too slow with his disposal to be playing there.

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:57 pm
by Daks
Bowden gets alot of the ball, also, yet people are always commenting on his inability to dispose of it. McGough is in the same boat. They are both soft recievers.... Getting the ball is one thing, but disposing of it properly is another. Being ble to do both separates the good footballers from the average ones.

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 7:00 pm
by Daniel
Daks.... r u 12? McGough a soft receiver.... things that make u go hhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 8:43 pm
by Johnson#26
spoljar wrote:Could possibly trade the following players for something we require:
Davis, Lokan, McGough and O'Bree.
(I would only trade these players if we could get an equivalent players to plug some of our holes)
We may get something for them. I wouldn't trade Goughy nor Davis but the other two are expendable. I think the Crows may want Lokan while the Dogs need an experianced midfielder (O'Bree).

Bowden would be good, as he is a good user of the ball and a reciever - something we need.

Licuria isn't that bad a kick, while Goughy will get better with his new action.

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 10:34 pm
by peter_pies4ever
These three need to go:
1. Kinnear- Finished at AFL level
2. Williams- Finished at AFL level
3. McKee- Ruck rule has hurt him

The following players will be facing a crunch year if retained:
1. McGough
2. R.Shaw
3. Lokan
4. O'Bree
5. Nixon
6. Mullins

I think we lack quick midfielders and need to be looking at drafting some of these players. Our forward line looks good as well as the backline and i think with Richards in the ruck we will continue to improve in that area. Quick midfielders is what we should be after in the draft!