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A spray bottle of perfume can be very effective if sprayed into the eyes, buy you at least 5 seconds to make a break.
Otherwise, it's easy to make up an ethanol based chili oil spray and put it in a small squirt bottle.
Eurydice Dixon
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stui magpie
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Two lives have been ruined here.
The young victim and the young 19 year old perpetrator.
It might be hard for some of the fire and brimstone types on here to grasp but people are complex and to the family and friends of the perpetrator he is most likely far from the monster he'll be made out to be by the opportunistic politicians and media.
Hell if anyone of us knew him I'm sure he has many likeable qualities and his actions have likely come as a complete shock to those who love him.
As mentioned above this whole notion that there are a swathe of men in society who believe it's okay to harm someone just because they're female is just nonsense fueled seemingly by militant feminism and again opportunistic politicians.
Of course there are some men who would only ever emotionally or physically assault a woman and wouldn't dare act in the same way against another male but these would be a minority and I'd imagine those prone to violent behaviour are equally capable of producing it against either sex.
By far the biggest victims of male violence would be other men I would have imagined and yet this is conveniently overlooked because it doesn't suit the narrative.
In instances of male on male violence just like assaults against women they aren't fueled by a simple belief that it's an acceptable behaviour though they are fueled by the social choices on the day of drinking alcohol or taking drugs or life situations like poverty and a dysfunctional family upbringing.
Mental health issues would also be a major cause whether due to childhood exposures or brain impairments from birth.
This whole belief that rape is always about power is misguided in my opinion also.
While I can totally accept that power is a primary motive in the common scenario of a male who is already in a relationship, has a history of sexual partners or has little difficulty in socialising with women there are other young men however who feel marginalised whether by learning disability, social standing, appearance, mental illness or a general shyness, anxiety or lack of self esteem when interacting with the opposite sex.
For these young men a feeling of loneliness, despair and a burgeoning sex drive can be a dangerous mix and in some instances can lead to actions not in line with the person they ever thought capable of being.
For me this is what has most likely happened here and we have a young man on the autism spectrum, one who most likely has a reduced learning capacity, who struggles to pick up on social cues of others and engage with people but one who motivated by a want to belong, to feel connected to a woman and the physical desires that come with being 19 made decisions that spiraled out of control and it lead to shocking consequences.
It is very easy to look at his actions in isolation on that night and label him a monster.
It takes compassion to see the person behind the crime, to realise that what lead up to that one single horrific moment is a complex web of life experience and he should be judged on all the circumstances of his situation.
To hate is easy.
To show empathy takes courage.
The young victim and the young 19 year old perpetrator.
It might be hard for some of the fire and brimstone types on here to grasp but people are complex and to the family and friends of the perpetrator he is most likely far from the monster he'll be made out to be by the opportunistic politicians and media.
Hell if anyone of us knew him I'm sure he has many likeable qualities and his actions have likely come as a complete shock to those who love him.
As mentioned above this whole notion that there are a swathe of men in society who believe it's okay to harm someone just because they're female is just nonsense fueled seemingly by militant feminism and again opportunistic politicians.
Of course there are some men who would only ever emotionally or physically assault a woman and wouldn't dare act in the same way against another male but these would be a minority and I'd imagine those prone to violent behaviour are equally capable of producing it against either sex.
By far the biggest victims of male violence would be other men I would have imagined and yet this is conveniently overlooked because it doesn't suit the narrative.
In instances of male on male violence just like assaults against women they aren't fueled by a simple belief that it's an acceptable behaviour though they are fueled by the social choices on the day of drinking alcohol or taking drugs or life situations like poverty and a dysfunctional family upbringing.
Mental health issues would also be a major cause whether due to childhood exposures or brain impairments from birth.
This whole belief that rape is always about power is misguided in my opinion also.
While I can totally accept that power is a primary motive in the common scenario of a male who is already in a relationship, has a history of sexual partners or has little difficulty in socialising with women there are other young men however who feel marginalised whether by learning disability, social standing, appearance, mental illness or a general shyness, anxiety or lack of self esteem when interacting with the opposite sex.
For these young men a feeling of loneliness, despair and a burgeoning sex drive can be a dangerous mix and in some instances can lead to actions not in line with the person they ever thought capable of being.
For me this is what has most likely happened here and we have a young man on the autism spectrum, one who most likely has a reduced learning capacity, who struggles to pick up on social cues of others and engage with people but one who motivated by a want to belong, to feel connected to a woman and the physical desires that come with being 19 made decisions that spiraled out of control and it lead to shocking consequences.
It is very easy to look at his actions in isolation on that night and label him a monster.
It takes compassion to see the person behind the crime, to realise that what lead up to that one single horrific moment is a complex web of life experience and he should be judged on all the circumstances of his situation.
To hate is easy.
To show empathy takes courage.
He's mad. He's bad. He's MaynHARD!
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Swoop, I think you and I are on a similar page here. I also agree with P4S. A woman is dead.
These things don't happen because all men are neanderthals who don't understand that rape is wrong, nor is the perpetrator always some evil monster,
He is, however, if guilty, a murderer and rapist and therefore deserves punishment and incarceration. While I can potentially have some empathy for him, I have a hell of a lot more for Eurydice and her family.
These things don't happen because all men are neanderthals who don't understand that rape is wrong, nor is the perpetrator always some evil monster,
He is, however, if guilty, a murderer and rapist and therefore deserves punishment and incarceration. While I can potentially have some empathy for him, I have a hell of a lot more for Eurydice and her family.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real- ... a2e4aa259c
Just a quick link to a story showing men are far more likely to experience random violence than women. Everyone should be watchful and cautious. I've twice had someone try and unsuccessfully mug me in Melbourne, totally random and luckily they weren't carrying weapons, just trying to intimidate but this stuff happens very frequently.
As for not allowing people to carry weapons because they can be used by criminals; criminals are already carrying and using weapons. The playing field between victim and predator needs to be evened up.
Just a quick link to a story showing men are far more likely to experience random violence than women. Everyone should be watchful and cautious. I've twice had someone try and unsuccessfully mug me in Melbourne, totally random and luckily they weren't carrying weapons, just trying to intimidate but this stuff happens very frequently.
As for not allowing people to carry weapons because they can be used by criminals; criminals are already carrying and using weapons. The playing field between victim and predator needs to be evened up.
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