#2 Jordan De Goey

[Jezza]

Melbourne players stayed 'Low and Local"!! How'd that pan out??

Steven May has a drinking problem. That's been known for years.

[Jezza]

I’ll bet there are 2 women feeling validated right now.

The optics are terrible, maybe you don’t care but sponsors do.

I don’t know what people are blaming the media, they are just doing their job, they didn’t even take the footage, yes media are scum, looking for sensational stories, but why do those stories sell? Because it’s what a lot of people want yo read. And no, I haven’t bothered, the snippets I’ve heard I totally agree with. You want a big contract, pull your head in. Name one game this season where he played every quarter to his standard?

You can knock swan for his shit too, but when he played, he played every minute he was on as if it was his last.

Show me the money? Show me the goods

I think the story has been blown out of proportion, and JDG's reputation makes him an easy target which he doesn't help alleviate.

Of course the optics are terrible. The sponsors don't care deep down, it's all about appearances for them.

Swan and the Rat Pack got up to no good as well, but social media wasn't as prominent back then as it is now.

JDG's main issue could be whether the club advised him not to travel overseas, but he ignored them anyway.

[Jezza]

Just out of curiosity, did any other Pies players head overseas this past week?

I was told Darcy Moore also travelled to Bali during the off season break.

Where's the outrage?

[Jezza]

Exactly. And in any elite sport you'll get a wide range of personalities, ranging from humourless fitness nerds to meathead party boys and everything in-between. Guys in the latter category are already reined in a lot more nowadays than they once were (which is probably for the best), and we could, if we like, try to eradicate them from our club altogether, which would mean turning our backs on some of the best footballers available in favour of a choirboys-only policy. More Ben Brown and Brett Kirk, less Dustin Martin and Dane Swan.

But if our goal is to have the best possible team, win premierships and so on, then I would recommend embracing a diversity of personalities, trying to control what you can (and should) control, and accepting the rest as reflective of the reality of living and working among fellow humans, as we do in all other walks of life.

Well said. All clubs and organisations are made up of a cluster of personalities.

The key to success is how to complement the strengths and differences of these individuals so they can unite towards a common goal.

In a perfect world, you have 22 Scott Pendlebury's but that's not living in the real world. Our premiership sides of 1990 and 2010 had a wide array of personalities, but managed to be successful nevertheless.

Buckley tried to change the culture from within by adopting a 'no dickheads' policy when he was coach around 2013 to 2017, but I don't think it was successful for us. The team lacked flair and was described as "vanilla" and "bland" at various stages.

[inxs88]

Just out of curiosity, did any other Pies players head overseas this past week?

I was told Darcy Moore also travelled to Bali during the off season break.

Where's the outrage?

One handled it well. one didn't

[Cam]

I’ll bet there are 2 women feeling validated right now.

The optics are terrible, maybe you don’t care but sponsors do.

I don’t know what people are blaming the media, they are just doing their job, they didn’t even take the footage, yes media are scum, looking for sensational stories, but why do those stories sell? Because it’s what a lot of people want yo read. And no, I haven’t bothered, the snippets I’ve heard I totally agree with. You want a big contract, pull your head in. Name one game this season where he played every quarter to his standard?

You can knock swan for his shit too, but when he played, he played every minute he was on as if it was his last.

Show me the money? Show me the goods

I think the story has been blown out of proportion, and JDG's reputation makes him an easy target which he doesn't help alleviate.

Of course the optics are terrible. The sponsors don't care deep down, it's all about appearances for them.

Swan and the Rat Pack got up to no good as well, but social media wasn't as prominent back then as it is now.

JDG's main issue could be whether the club advised him not to travel overseas, but he ignored them anyway.

If they had social media then like it is now... half our premiership team would have been in trouble every weekend.

[Rd10.1998_11.1#36]

^^and some of them would have learned after the first, or second, time and some wouldn’t

I was told Darcy Moore also travelled to Bali during the off season break.

Where's the outrage?

Where’s the form? Where’s the video?

In reality it’s not Bali that’s the problem

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JDG back at training Monday Bali will then be all forgotten

[Big T]

Ex-champions who are now payed to make comments in the media.

Don’t defend him, don’t admonish him. Just Let him be him. Let him Play footy at an elite level, which he’s paid to do and when it’s HIS time, do what he wants to do off field as long as he doesn’t break the law (which he didnt). I’m not being naïve, just want him to get a fair Go.

Spot on.

[RudeBoy]

Exactly. And in any elite sport you'll get a wide range of personalities, ranging from humourless fitness nerds to meathead party boys and everything in-between. Guys in the latter category are already reined in a lot more nowadays than they once were (which is probably for the best), and we could, if we like, try to eradicate them from our club altogether, which would mean turning our backs on some of the best footballers available in favour of a choirboys-only policy. More Ben Brown and Brett Kirk, less Dustin Martin and Dane Swan.

But if our goal is to have the best possible team, win premierships and so on, then I would recommend embracing a diversity of personalities, trying to control what you can (and should) control, and accepting the rest as reflective of the reality of living and working among fellow humans, as we do in all other walks of life.

You've nailed it David. Touche!

[WhyPhilWhy?]

Oh for god's sake - he can be all the personality he wants to be, he just needs to be a grown up and keep it out of the public arena.

He knew someone was pointing a phone at him, he knew he was under increased scrutiny and he MUST have known the Media would pick up on it.

Was foregoing one short trip to Bali too much to ask for his Club and team mates?

Not a smart bloke...

[think positive]

RightPhilRight!

Also round 10: it’s not Bali that’s the problem! Yup

[burnsy17]

Bali was never the problem, nor was it a problem the club showed trust in a player with priors to behave. Well done to the club for treating it’s players with trust…. Even the players who have forked up overseas only months ago.

The easy decision would have been for the club to say to him…. Mate, you forked up 6 months ago, Maybe have your holiday at home. But they didn’t do this. They showed trust, and as I’ve said previously, they would have understood that there was a probability that he would stuff up again.

The issue here is not Bali. It’s DeGoey and his peanut brain.

Decisions are being made daily on all players. The club is testing their words VS their actions and on balance of these actions, players will be either kept or traded.

He’s goneski.

[think positive]

Bali was never the problem, nor was it a problem the club showed trust in a player with priors to behave. Well done to the club for treating it’s players with trust…. Even the players who have forked up overseas only months ago.

The easy decision would have been for the club to say to him…. Mate, you forked up 6 months ago, Maybe have your holiday at home. But they didn’t do this. They showed trust, and as I’ve said previously, they would have understood that there was a probability that he would stuff up again.

The issue here is not Bali. It’s DeGoey and his peanut brain.

Decisions are being made daily on all players. The club is testing their words VS their actions and on balance of these actions, players will be either kept or traded.

He’s goneski.

I actually think your right re the clubs thinking, some part of me still hopes he will finally grow some grown up nuts, realise the whole blow up is totally on him, and decide to commit. Not sure it’s in him to be honest.

I do get where the guys saying it’s nothing come from, and for another player probably wouldn’t be, but for a player with history, and yes, a rap sheet, it’s just dumb. Let’s not forget people who post shit like this do it for one reason, hoping it will go viral, get them a heap of followers, and I have no idea how it works, make money. People blaming a media beat up, all they did was report the video taken by someone DeGoey obviously was familiar enough with that night to make some very dodgy hand gestures and idiot faces at, and give their opinion, which is their job. That’s on him. He knows he’s on probation at the club, and he knows his antics sell papers, good or bad antics, and he still chose to carry on like he’s just a care free no one that doesn’t have a multi million contract in the works that yes, does depend on him not landing in another jail cell or embarrassing the club, it’s sponsors and supporters, the people that actually pay his outrageous salary.

Is it right? Is it right that Bruce Willis who can barely speak any more could make a couple of million for grumbling through a movie when the doctor who is treating him makes maybe half of that if he’s lucky? Is it right that the Kartrashians are all loaded because Kim made a home porno? No, it’s not, but that’s the sad $@&^# up world we live in, and just occasionally you have to play by the rules if you want to keep your dream job. He doesn’t want that part of it? Tough shit it’s part of the deal, go play minor league. Someone compared it to US basketball players, laughable, the money involved in a country where the more deprived/dishonest you are the richer you get, do we really want to be like that?

He’s making his own bed, this is no ones fault but his, not the person filming, not the report who saw it on Instagram, not the club for letting him go to Bali, and not ‘what ever happens in Bali stays in Bali’ Bali’s fault. He can afford to jet around and pay expensive lawyers to get him out of trouble because he has talent, it’s not a get out of jail free card. How refreshing would it be to see him on someone’s Instagram just having a surf, or smiling with a kid? My question to him would be was the night worth it? Shit he could have booked a hut and had a private party, no phones.

Don’t even get me started on that statement, it’s pure embarrassment.

[kymbo5@yahoo.com.au]

To those thinking that wasn't JDG's forearm, it was. The HS had a pic that clearly showed his tatts down to the ones on the inside of his fingers.
The main issue I have with Jordy is his lack of maturity for a 26yo. Leave out the fact that his nightclub antics were caught on camera and published on social media. He's a professional athlete on decent money in a team sport where you need to be a team player, and think about the consequences of your actions. Not doing so shows a lack of care and respect for your teammates for one. Selfish.
So what are the issues here? For one, there is the issue of a professional athlete (in mid-season mind you) not even skolling shots but actually having alochol (or God knows what they have in Bali clubs) poured straight down his throat by the barman. Yeh I know there's a name for this and it's a nightclub thing...I don't care. This after he's already been drinking at a pool party earlier in the day. Out of control. We've all seen accounts of athletes being meticulous in what they eat/drink, and how they prepare. Well that's not Jordy.
After this, the vulgar acts in front of the camera...the middle finger, the tongue action. Wtf? Like grow up man. Just because someone sticks a camera in front of you, doesn't mean you have to act like a d#ckhead.
Then there's the pretty sh#t act of trying to expose the girl's breast. I don't care if she's a social media queen, or trying to be, or party girl or whatever and claims "nothing to see here'. She's also got family, mum, dad, siblings, that would find that pretty disgusting thing to do to their daughter, sister etc.
Yeh I know he's a good player, and crucial to our team. He may even one day be the difference in us winning a premiership. Does it matter if we do win one with a list of sh#t people that don't care about the club or its supporters? Yeh it matters to me. Winning isn't everything. If it didn't matter, then I'd quite happily barrack for pompous cheating Caaaarlton da da da da da.
So Jordy, pull your head in, and have a look at yourself and what you want to stand for.

great post

I second that. Great post.