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If I wanted to go to a bucket list destination that involved deep pockets and lots of queuing, I'd go to Disneyland
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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stui magpie wrote:If I wanted to go to a bucket list destination that involved deep pockets and lots of queuing, I'd go to Disneyland
in a damn heart beat!! i LOVE that place!!!
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As a child I would have walked over broken glass to go, but when I was in LA a couple of years ago, I considered and decided against. Walking through crowds frustrates the hell out of me, let alone queuing for ages for anything. I'd more likely go serial killer mode than enjoy myself
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stui magpie wrote:As a child I would have walked over broken glass to go, but when I was in LA a couple of years ago, I considered and decided against. Walking through crowds frustrates the hell out of me, let alone queuing for ages for anything. I'd more likely go serial killer mode than enjoy myself
I’ve been 3 times to Disneyland and spent 6 nights in a hotel in Disney World, where we went to the Christmas Party at the Magic Kingdom, and hardly ever had to queue longer than 15 min for any ride. The worst was when the cars ride opened, we waited nearly an hour, but they keep you entertained! We were at Universal the week Harry Potter world opened and the queues were over 90 min. Junior an I were in the queue for 10 min and I was about to say stuff this, as it was over 35 degrees, and they announced the wait for single riders was 5 min! After that we went single rider on nearly every ride for the day, and still ended up together 90% of the time!

I’m on a Disney cast members (employees!) Facebook page, and apparently in Orlando the crowds are now horrendous for a lot of the year. The six days we spent there were magical! I’d do it again in a heartbeat! So much fun!

Hubby doesn’t like rides, so I’ll have to wait for grandkids I guess!
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If you want another reason not to climb Everest...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mor ... time-bomb/
The two standard routes, the Northeast Ridge and the Southeast Ridge, are not only dangerously crowded but also disgustingly polluted, with garbage leaking out of the glaciers and pyramids of human excrement befouling the high camps
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OMG thats revolting, sad and maddening,

it disgusts me that they can just leave stuff up there, all the gas bottles and rubbish, let alone bodies! so much for not leaving a footprint, anyone who cared would take their crap back down. i just dont get it.
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Yeah, climbing Everest used to be something only a very few could do. It required lots of training and a special skill set. If you achieved it, it was a special achievement and one which was recognised as such and you could be proud of it.

Nowdays, any wealthy old white man can do it, just throw enough cash and convince enough of the right people to support. As such, the number of people doing it has drastically increased and the level of respect and achievement seriously diluted.

Basically, the same as being Australian PM.
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hahahahahaha! pay that!
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David wrote:If you want another reason not to climb Everest...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mor ... time-bomb/
The two standard routes, the Northeast Ridge and the Southeast Ridge, are not only dangerously crowded but also disgustingly polluted, with garbage leaking out of the glaciers and pyramids of human excrement befouling the high camps
For the most part climbing Everest has actually now become meaningless. What if the next achievement became how much garbage one person could actually remove from the mountain rather than climbing it. the ultimate in Eco-tourism. :lol:
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David wrote:If you want another reason not to climb Everest...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mor ... time-bomb/
The two standard routes, the Northeast Ridge and the Southeast Ridge, are not only dangerously crowded but also disgustingly polluted, with garbage leaking out of the glaciers and pyramids of human excrement befouling the high camps
For the most part climbing Everest has actually now become meaningless. What if the next achievement became how much garbage one person could actually remove from the mountain rather than climbing it. the ultimate in Eco-tourism. :lol:
sad part is how many Sherpas die trying to do just that
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3,000 kg of garbage collected from Mt Everest region

https://thehimalayantimes.com/business/ ... st-region/
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David wrote:Who has that kind of money? :o
The permit cost is only a fraction of the total cost. The total cost can "easily surpass $50,000". Increase the permit cost so it matches the other costs, I say. They can give discounts to real climbers.
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stui magpie wrote:
Pies4shaw wrote:I also don't understand the comments about disincentive to work - I know that many people have to get by as best they can on low wages but who would - by choice - live on under $500 a week (before they meet housing costs etc), if they could do better? Moreover, if they can't do better and they're actually condemned to live on this, what hope of a reasonable quality of life does this offer?

There are always people who are going to rort the system - and plenty more who think that rorting it is "smart" - but what of the majority of people who are stuck on this payment and don't have millions put away? I can't believe that there are many people on this pension who are actually well off.

While we're at it - what's with Newstart and why is it only about 60% or so of this ridiculously low DSP? I'm not sure what society gets out of condemning a large proportion of the population to living like this, in many (most?) cases for the majority of their adult lives. Looks like a great way to generate a large, disgruntled, hopeless underclass to me.
Not referring to Aboriginals but generally in response to your comments, you would be surprised at how many people have no desire to work and are able to rort the system to live reasonably well.

$500 net per week isn't a lot, but get 2 people and that's $1000 per week. With no tax that's the same as earning around $67k for 1 person gross, without havng to work for it. Add in a kid or 2 (or 3 or 4) and the payments climb, plus rent assistance etc. Get access to public housing and you're really doing well.

I'll grant that they're a small percentage of the population, but not a small number. Unfortunately these people cast a shadow over those who legitimately want to work.
It's an interesting narrative. Compare, eg:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-31/ ... e/11162996

I suppose you must mean "really doing well" in a very, very limited sense of "really doing well".
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