You'd assume he was just training away from the Doggies club due to the uncertainty of his future there.Presti35 wrote:Yep, it was Hrovat.The Prototype wrote:There was a thread on this about Seven reporting it as well. It was apparently Nathan Hrovat wasn't anything really in this. Just a player spotted there it seems.Mossi wrote:Just heard a rumour on SEN that a WB player is training at collingwood!! Take what you will out of it! But gees I hope it is young Long!
Just running laps. It's not clear if he was there on Collingwoods behalf, or just using the running track.
I dont think there's much in this tbh.
#32 Travis Cloke
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I get that MT and I don't like the system at all. If Vickery is worth 26 then in my mind Cloke is worth around mid 30's surely. If Cloke had triggered the salary component of his salary with us for 2017 then by those rules we would have been entitled to a better pick than we seem likely to receive.mooretreloar wrote:Unfortunately, the compensation Richmond gets for Vickery has nothing to do with how good or bad he is.Piesnchess wrote:spot on, hammer, nail. head, bang .qldmagpie67 wrote:If Vickery is worth pick 26 and I would be correct in assuming his resume isn't anywhere that of Cloke's then one could fairly assume a pick in the mid to low 30's would be fair given Cloke is older but has a good reputation for not getting injured and missing so that counts in his favour.
Anything below pick 45-50 is IMO unacceptable.
If the dogs won't cough up something in the 30' or early 40's then we find someone who will simple.
Enough is enough he might want out badly but that's his issue not ours. Ours is to ensure we don't get reamed over it.
Tell Demir if travis wants to hand back half of his 2015 salary and all of his 2016 salary he can go for free because that's how long since he's really earned the money he's been paid form the club.
The formula takes into account the original draft pick that he went at in his draft year, which was pick 8. It then looks at the length and value of the contract his new club is offering, supposedly 2 years at $500k.
Thus, under the formula this equates to a 2nd round pick after Richmond's original 2nd round pick, which was 25, but they traded that pick last year as part of the multi-club complicated Charlie Dixon trade. Therefore, it is pick 26.
This is the same formula that netted us a first round pick when Daisy left for Carlton.
We aren't going to get a pick in the 30's or 40's for Travis, 59 is the best we are going to get, but likely to be lower.
Not saying Vickery is better, he is not good enough to carry Cloke's bags, but given Cloke's age, his poor form, that we want his salary off our books, that he wants to go to the Dogs and everything appears to point to us not wanting him, his value is deflated to what the Dogs are offering.
I posted the other day I would be asking for the deal of Cloke and our pick 45 for pick 39 from them. Basically we are giving them Cloke and exchanging a pick which helps us out with points and doesn't diminish there draft position greatly. For me that would be fair
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If the deal is not done by the time council pick-up night in Footscray comes around, we know where to leave him.
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Pricks knew very well we weren't letting him go so just made us use a higher pick, they might not want to risk it this time.Piesnchess wrote:True, they wanted Darcy Moore I recall. They got Pickens kid, they can bugger off now.Presti35 wrote:Watch the sons of the scray fkn bid on one of our father-sons too.
To put Cloke's market value into its proper perspective, here's the AFL site's report on the Sam Mitchell deal:
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-14/h ... y-an-eagle
It looks like the Hawks valued their late-career genuine star, still apparently near the peak of his powers, as being worth a swap of draft picks that moved the Hawks up 2 places in each of the 3rd (from 54 to 52) and 4th rounds (from 72 to 70), plus pick 88, together with, of course, the salary cap space created by moving him on.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-14/h ... y-an-eagle
It looks like the Hawks valued their late-career genuine star, still apparently near the peak of his powers, as being worth a swap of draft picks that moved the Hawks up 2 places in each of the 3rd (from 54 to 52) and 4th rounds (from 72 to 70), plus pick 88, together with, of course, the salary cap space created by moving him on.
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There was no movement at the station
for the word had passed around that he was worth less than
a thompsoc sock!
He was worth a thousand pounds in our dreams of yesteryear
So now all the cracks on Nix had gathered to the fray.
And they were willing to chase him off as far as they could.....that crappy colt.
Bye Trav.
But wait no taker means will he be there next year??.... as the Water Boy!
Apologies to Banjo P.
for the word had passed around that he was worth less than
a thompsoc sock!
He was worth a thousand pounds in our dreams of yesteryear
So now all the cracks on Nix had gathered to the fray.
And they were willing to chase him off as far as they could.....that crappy colt.
Bye Trav.
But wait no taker means will he be there next year??.... as the Water Boy!
Apologies to Banjo P.
we don't eat our own at collingwood we just allow them to foul our nest.
