#2 Jordan De Goey

[Pies4shaw]

No, we may be posting at cross-purposes - I mean is it likely that Collingwood would increase the offer it pulled, not whether St Kilda has made an offer of 3 + 2 - I don't doubt that your comment about that is accurate.

[mudlark]

We keep De Goey (5 years at $720K/annum) and play him in the centre-forward role alternating with Jamie Elliott.

2023 Team- Assuming the recruitment of: McStay & Bobby Hill and the return of Grundy and Kreuger from injury.

B: Maynard. Moore. Howe

HB : Pendlebury Murphy. Quaynor

C: J Daicos. De Goey. Sidebottom

HF: Henry. Kreuger. Mihocek

F: Elliott. McStay. Ginnivan

Ruck: Grundy. Crisp Adams

IC: Bobby Hill, N. Daicos, Cameron, Lipinski

Emergency: C Brown, T Brown, MacRae, Poulter, McCreery, Kelly, McMahon, Dean, Cox, Bianco, Madgen, Johnson, Carmichael, Wilson, Draper, Ruscoe, McInnes, Murley, Chugg, Harrison, Hoskin-Elliott, Begg....

Not a bad assessment WL. IF McStay happens to land at Collingwood, I reckon it will be as a key backman, where he actually started his career at Brisbane. Something we desperately need. As for the I/C I can’t see either of the Browns being there. Perhaps Tyler with another pre season under his belt could become a Silvani type utility. Poulter wants home and I’m thinking Madgen gets delisted.

[mudlark]

We keep De Goey (5 years at $720K/annum) and play him in the centre-forward role alternating with Jamie Elliott.

2023 Team- Assuming the recruitment of: McStay & Bobby Hill and the return of Grundy and Kreuger from injury.

B: Maynard. Moore. Howe

HB : Pendlebury Murphy. Quaynor

C: J Daicos. De Goey. Sidebottom

HF: Henry. Kreuger. Mihocek

F: Elliott. McStay. Ginnivan

Ruck: Grundy. Crisp Adams

IC: Bobby Hill, N. Daicos, Cameron, Lipinski

Emergency: C Brown, T Brown, MacRae, Poulter, McCreery, Kelly, McMahon, Dean, Cox, Bianco, Madgen, Johnson, Carmichael, Wilson, Draper, Ruscoe, McInnes, Murley, Chugg, Harrison, Hoskin-Elliott, Begg....

Not a bad assessment WL. IF McStay happens to land at Collingwood, I reckon it will be as a key backman, where he actually started his career at Brisbane. Something we desperately need. As for the I/C I can’t see either of the Browns being there. Perhaps Tyler with another pre season under his belt could become a Silvani type utility. Poulter wants home and I’m thinking Madgen gets delisted. As for Jordy, if we trade home and then spends year’s looking for and developing a “Jordan DeGoey”. Makes no sense to me. He stays and will be adequately compensated. Your number looks about right.

[lazzadesilva]

As for Jordy, if we trade home and then spends year’s looking for and developing a “Jordan DeGoey”. Makes no sense to me. He stays and will be adequately compensated. Your number looks about right.

Totally agree with your logic re JDG. It’s nuts to get rid of him and then bust our guts finding another similar player. That’s why I hope like hell that Collingwood take steps to retain him. The rest is up to him. If he is that bloody desperate to join The Ain’ts, then it’s a different story and back to seeking an adequate replacement. Time will tell.

[Marvelos]

Need to keep him, I’d be happy if we reinstated his original offer but hopefully he signs for less, Grundy needs to do the team thing and give back 150kpa, otherwise he can **** off.

[scoobydoo]

You don’t trade out match winners. Especially those under $1 million per year.
Also, must resign Henry. Future match winner.

[Pebbles Rocks]

His last quarter last night was massive. He turned the momentum of the game.

[Piesnchess]

His last quarter last night was massive. He turned the momentum of the game.

For Chrissakes put the original deal back on the table, last night showed absolutely we cannot lose him, we cannot afford too, had he not played, last night, we would not have won, its that &%^%&%^& simple, thats it, he is a vital , vital player for us, sign him back up now, itd be a wonderful coup on the eve of the Finals. Just do it, do it NOW.

[think positive]

You don’t trade out match winners. Especially those under $1 million per year.
Also, must resign Henry. Future match winner.

agree to both

ive been more than hard on degoey, no apologies, last night he really showed heart, guts, determination, more importantly, team team team, and yes that mad talent he is lucky enough to posess, hope he has the balls to stay, as i just read in an article, playing on the edge rather than in a comfy money deal elsewhere

[stui magpie]

We'd be nuts to let him walk because we lowballed his contract offer.

Clearly we withdrew the offer we had on the table following the Bali furor both for PR (we announced that we'd done it) and to also send a message.

Apart from what we see on field, the club would want to be happy with what they see off field, how be behaves at training, meetings, has he bought into the team ethos, etc.

Fly has stated he wants him to stay, he will have a lot of sway in that decision. Clubs don' just let players go that the coach wants to keep.

Of course he's going to have to take less to stay, we can't match a Godfather offer from St Kilda, but we need to make a genuine realistic offer.

If we've been happy with what we've seen off field, I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if we've come back with a 3+2 offer.

In a perfect world, we sort it out before finals time.

[RudeBoy]

Jeez I hope you are right stui. I'm just worried that after our club buckled to media woke pressure and withdrew our offer, that Jordy and his >snip< manager didn't say to themselves "well >snip< them, we'll get a better deal elsewhere". I honestly think JDG is our only irreplaceable player. No-one else on our list has his power and explosiveness around packs. Players like that win Grand finals.

[stui magpie]

I hope I'm right too Rudey. I reckon that would have been exactly Jordy's initial reaction, but I'm hoping that since then and after taking the weeks mental health break, he's realised that the club had little choice. Right, wrong or otherwise, it was the only way to shut the media up.

Plus it sends the message, we love ya, but you have to pull your head in off field and start thinking.

If he wasn't playing last night, we lose. Simple as that. If he chooses to take the money and run, that's his choice, but we need to make sure we put enough to him to make it a hard decision.

[think positive]

He’s playing in the most exciting team in the comp
Money isn’t everything

For the love of the game!

Be the gero

[stui magpie]

I have NFI what a gero is, but no one plays AFL just for the love of the game.

Once you get up into the areas AFL players earn, for every extra $100k you could get, half that goes in tax. Athletes have a short period to maximise their earnings, not many normal careers have you washed up in your early 30's, but great teams don't have to pay players overs to stay, they take less to be part of team success.

Jordy doesn't strike me as the type to go into the media and he isn't going on to a career as a rocket surgeon, so he may prioritise wringing every last cent he can get out of his AFL career, but I hope not.

[pietillidie]