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Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:45 pm
by Piethagoras' Theorem
just when I thought we'd run out of things to whine about... FMS

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:51 pm
by skaman
Great chemistry. Exciting times ahead me thinks.

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 7:34 pm
by swoop42
I think De Goey will prove to be another Hine masterpiece and show once again why we shouldn't ever doubt his eye for talent.

It's fair to say I've warmed to him.

I get the feeling De Goey could well have been rated far higher by many opposition clubs recruiters than what the media and amateur phantom drafters believed.

It's funny that when I was tracking the progress of Moore at Oakleigh in the second half of the year one name that kept bloody popping up in the bests more than him was De Goey.

While it's fair to say I like many others were blinded by the flashier Laverde or the potential upside seen in the younger Langford, De Goey with a better ability to win a contested ball and willingness to scrap for it for the team was the right selection for our current team needs.

He was a good safe choice but could easily end up being seen as the best player of all those available at pick 5 in a few years time.

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 7:52 pm
by Stupied

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 8:26 pm
by Dave The Man
swoop42 wrote:I think De Goey will prove to be another Hine masterpiece and show once again why we shouldn't ever doubt his eye for talent.

It's fair to say I've warmed to him.

I get the feeling De Goey could well have been rated far higher by many opposition clubs recruiters than what the media and amateur phantom drafters believed.

It's funny that when I was tracking the progress of Moore at Oakleigh in the second half of the year one name that kept bloody popping up in the bests more than him was De Goey.

While it's fair to say I like many others were blinded by the flashier Laverde or the potential upside seen in the younger Langford, De Goey with a better ability to win a contested ball and willingness to scrap for it for the team was the right selection for our current team needs.

He was a good safe choice but could easily end up being seen as the best player of all those available at pick 5 in a few years time.
There was Talk before the Draft that Cats De Goey rated as Number 1 Prospect

De Goey

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 9:42 pm
by ip address
I really liked what De Goey said when he met Bucks.

He said "I won't let you down Bucks and ....... and I won't let down the Collingwood fans". Loved hearing that knowing it was genuine and from someone who is positive and confident.

I remember a couple years back a draftee said something to the effect of "I hope the fans won't be upset with me if I stuff up". I knew then and there he wasn't going to make it. Sure enough he recently got delisted. He was never going to make it anyway, even though the Club persisted. Credit where it's due, he played more games for the Pies than I ever did and good luck to him.

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 10:08 pm
by swoop42
Really love this kids attitude and like Freeman last year seems to have an upbeat personality.

I think both Freeman and De Goey are going to add so much to our side in the near future.

I can understand the Beams comparison but you feel De Goey has a few more tricks up his sleeve than Beams.

While he'd need to have a very good career to just achieve what Beams did at our club and hasn't displayed the same ability to find big numbers like Beams at the same age I think he looks much more of a marking threat up forward as a lead up target and in a contested situation.

Beams got a lot of goals from marks after running into space from outside the f50.

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:58 am
by And
He is from St Kev's

That is enough for me 8)

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:05 pm
by RudeBoy
swoop42 wrote:I think De Goey will prove to be another Hine masterpiece and show once again why we shouldn't ever doubt his eye for talent.

It's fair to say I've warmed to him.

I get the feeling De Goey could well have been rated far higher by many opposition clubs recruiters than what the media and amateur phantom drafters believed.

It's funny that when I was tracking the progress of Moore at Oakleigh in the second half of the year one name that kept bloody popping up in the bests more than him was De Goey.

While it's fair to say I like many others were blinded by the flashier Laverde or the potential upside seen in the younger Langford, De Goey with a better ability to win a contested ball and willingness to scrap for it for the team was the right selection for our current team needs.

He was a good safe choice but could easily end up being seen as the best player of all those available at pick 5 in a few years time.
I also noted that Hine said that De Goey had not had much exposure in elite environments. In fact, he only played about half the season this year for the Oakleigh Chargers. In an elite environment, he can be expected to develop quickly. On the other hand, some other players who already look ready-made, may have had years of professional training and development, so there's possibly not as much room for further development.

It's why recruiting Indigenous players from community football backgrounds can reap amazing rewards, because once they get proper training, fitness and diets, they have enormous scope for improvement. I predict Nakia Cockatoo will become a star very quickly.

I know that at University, it is very common for the best students to come from state school backgrounds, where they have had to work incredibly hard to achieve, compared often to those from elite private schools, who have had personal coaching and access to all the best support networks.

Re: De Goey

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 5:03 pm
by Jezza
ip address wrote:I really liked what De Goey said when he met Bucks.

He said "I won't let you down Bucks and ....... and I won't let down the Collingwood fans". Loved hearing that knowing it was genuine and from someone who is positive and confident.
I loved hearing that! It goes to show how appreciative he is of us recruiting him! I think the boy will be a success and surprise a lot of people for the better.

There must be a reason why Laverde went down to pick 20 in the first place. His highlights reel was impressive but the recruiters must have been put off by something because he was overlooked between pick 6 to 19 as well and Essendon had pick 17 to select Kyle Langford in the first place.

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 5:33 pm
by Podpicken
Something is not right about Laverde. I can't understand it. There's a deeper issue as to why he slid to 20. Clearly touted as a top 5 pick. Something is up.

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 5:42 pm
by Dave The Man
Podpicken wrote:Something is not right about Laverde. I can't understand it. There's a deeper issue as to why he slid to 20. Clearly touted as a top 5 pick. Something is up.
Off-Field stuff?

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:56 am
by GreekLunatic
maybe we were the only ones who said laverde was top 5. Looking at laverde clip he seems like a one trick pony

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 4:47 pm
by Albert Parker
swoop42 wrote:I think De Goey will prove to be another Hine masterpiece and show once again why we shouldn't ever doubt his eye for talent.

It's fair to say I've warmed to him.

I get the feeling De Goey could well have been rated far higher by many opposition clubs recruiters than what the media and amateur phantom drafters believed.

It's funny that when I was tracking the progress of Moore at Oakleigh in the second half of the year one name that kept bloody popping up in the bests more than him was De Goey.

While it's fair to say I like many others were blinded by the flashier Laverde or the potential upside seen in the younger Langford, De Goey with a better ability to win a contested ball and willingness to scrap for it for the team was the right selection for our current team needs.

He was a good safe choice but could easily end up being seen as the best player of all those available at pick 5 in a few years time.
Chris Pelchen ex Saints and Hawks list manager appeared to rate DeGoey and rated us second best club in the draft behind the Suns.

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:01 pm
by Dave The Man