Should all beaches be clothing-optional?

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[David]

[Tannin]

How anyone who fetishises and avidly consumes horrible violence and brutality on TV can object to seeing a perfectly natural sex organ is utterly beyond me. And I don't care what size it is or how stiff it is. Under no circumstances can it possibly be 1/100th as bad as the brutality and violence we see every night on the idiot box.

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[David]

Interesting. So you vigorously oppose a swimming pool pandering to a minority of prudes by requesting modest attire for a short cultural event, but you support public beaches pandering to a minority of prudes every day of the year by requesting modest attire. Some cognitive dissonance there, methinks.

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Interesting. So you vigorously oppose a swimming pool pandering to a minority of prudes by requesting modest attire for a short cultural event, but you support public beaches pandering to a minority of prudes every day of the year by requesting modest attire. Some cognitive dissonance there, methinks.

seriously, grow up

im hardly in the minority, do a poll, on both subjects. go on I dare you.

the funny thing is, if you took your attitude to all things naked, sexual, sexual assault, etc, to a full on muslim culture, it might just see you publicly paraded, 50 lashes, stoned, and finally, beheaded with a nice blunt razor!!

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oh look there already is a poll for one of em, oooooh look again, I win!

the 2 "all beaches" is probably you and Nick the perve man!!

[Morrigu]

Just out of curiosity David how exactly have you come to the conclusion that the majority support nude beaches and therefore we are pandering to a minority by enforcing clothing?

Out of curiosity I did a straw poll at work with quite a few nurses, doctors, admin staff of both genders and a range of ages - only got one "maybe" the rest were nope!!

All were happy to have designated nudey beaches for those that way inclined.

Personally couldn't give a rats - I would only ever considering going to the beach if there were buggar all people there anyway.

[David]

Jo, In this highly representative poll of 15 people, the majority think there should at least be more clothing-optional beaches than there are now.

This is quite a theoretical poll, though. What I'd like to know is what percentage of people would be offended or upset if they saw a random naked person at the beach. I would be very surprised if the majority said yes.

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Jo, In this highly representative poll of 15 people, the majority think there should at least be more clothing-optional beaches than there are now.

This is quite a theoretical poll, though. What I'd like to know is what percentage of people would be offended or upset if they saw a random naked person at the beach. I would be very surprised if the majority said yes.

Ask em how many beaches they want? You'd probably get "at least one where I don't get half killed trying to get my unfit self onto the sand" and It's still a long way from ALL beaches. And well done on totally ignoring Morrigu's post! So much for balanced journalism.
By the way, I'd be offended if my young kids were there, and tell them to put some damn clothes on, or go to an appropriate place.

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How anyone who fetishises and avidly consumes horrible violence and brutality on TV can object to seeing a perfectly natural sex organ is utterly beyond me. And I don't care what size it is or how stiff it is. Under no circumstances can it possibly be 1/100th as bad as the brutality and violence we see every night on the idiot box.

I don't subject others to my fetish, (I'll keep the rock to myself thanks!) thats the difference

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How anyone who fetishises and avidly consumes horrible violence and brutality on TV can object to seeing a perfectly natural sex organ is utterly beyond me. And I don't care what size it is or how stiff it is. Under no circumstances can it possibly be 1/100th as bad as the brutality and violence we see every night on the idiot box.

I don't subject others to my fetish

But you do. Everyone who has a TV set is subjected to your violence fetish. We can't avoid it. What's worse, we are all forced to live with a massively increased risk of violent assault and injury because all the kids growing up are steeped in the violence and brutality you so enjoy. Looked at any crime reports lately?

Now you could say "don't watch TV", but that doesn't protect us from the violent culture people like you nurture and encourage with this poisonously sick pro-violence propaganda you so like to watch. And in any case, it is far easier to avoid going to the beach - lots of people practically never go anyway - than it is to avoid violence on TV and at the movies and on the Internet and at the video shop and on the wall while you are waiting for your pizza, and every other damn place you go.

Support violence on TV if you wish. Oppose public nudity if you wish. But you cannot possibly do both, not unless you are content to be hopelessly unfair and illogical and a mere thought-free creature of your upbringing without the ability to reason your way past things you unthinkingly accepted when you were 12 and never got around to questioning. We all start off believing things which turn out to be nonsense. The ability to subject these things to rational, sensible reconsideration and, if need be, change our beliefs to fit the facts is what sets civilised humans apart from savages.