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Magpietothemax wrote:^ yes, agree, Ruscoe looks like a transformed player. You just have to watch his body language. He is always first there to congratulate a goal kicker, and is incredibly effusive and warm in his positive feedback. He looks so confident in his defensive role as well. He also looks physically different. He seems to have amassed several more kilos of muscle in the past 3 months. His physicality has been fantastic. I am really impressed as to how he is growing in a totally team orientation. Well done to him.
Always liked Ruscoe, even during his struggles. I could see he's the type of personality that wears his heart on his sleeve.

Really pleased he's turned things around as a defender. He's out of contract, but he's definitely earned an extension.
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It’s obvious that Buckley held back this group with safe football. We had too many good players to keep dishing up the tripe we were under his watch, save for much of 2018 and some of 2019.

What a wasted decade.

I love Buckley (the player), but the proof is in our run and carry style of play, the spread, using the corridor, our defence spreading and running at every opportunity, never stagnant.

Was fun to watch.
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Fantastic win. I am going to order the DVD when its available.

Ive always hated these mongrels, and will never forget the meth fuelled grand final and brownlow they stole from us.
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Donny wrote:
Dave The Man wrote:This is about the best Game I seen De Goey Play. 34 Touches
He had over 40 'touches'. 34 disposals.
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Boilovers by huge margins rarely occur, but by Saturday night, Collingwood upstaged West Coast in an emphatic and comprehensive performance to prevail by 45 points. The Magpies were allowed time and space to deliver the ball without any significant pressure coming from the Eagles, while daring kicks and handpasses through the corridor from the Woods found their targets and eventuated in early goals creating significant scoreboard pressure in the opening term. The second quarter saw Collingwood dismantle West Coast substantially in general play with their continued dominance reflecting on the scoreboard with a number of simple shots at goal converted to effectively put the game out of reach for the Eagles when the half time siren sounded. The next two quarters proved to be inconsequential as the Magpies kicked enough goals to thwart any remote suggestions of a miraculous comeback for West Coast by maintaining much of the lead that had been built in the first half by the game's conclusion.

Collingwood won the bulk of they key statistical categories, such as disposals by +108 (462 - 354), +83 for kicks (280 - 197), handballs were won by +25 (182 - 157), while contested possessions had a narrow gain of +2 (105 - 103), and uncontested possessions had a differential of +102 (352 - 250) with intercept possessions up by +3 ( 61 - 58 ). Tackles had a margin of +7 (39 - 32), while uncontested marks had an advantage of +63 (156 - 93), Contested Marks were won by +3 ( 11 - 8 ), and Marks Inside 50 were secured by +8 (18 - 10). West Coast won their categories inconsequentially from hit-outs by +4 (27 - 23), clearances had a differential of +6 (33 - 27), with gaps of +4 from centre clearances (13 - 9) and +2 from stoppage clearances ( 20 - 18 ). Tackles Inside 50 were won by +10 (11 - 1), while Inside 50s had a margin of +3 (45 - 42) to culminate proceedings on the contest that transpired.

Jordan De Goey (34 disposals @ 82%, 540 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 29 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 23 kicks, 11 handballs, 7 marks, 3 tackles, 1 goal assist, 6 score involvements, 2 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances, 6 Inside 50s & 6 Rebound 50s) continued his rich vein of form in the midfield by hitting targets by foot with high regularity and ran to the right spots to take marks, while he also had the smarts to release handpasses to teammates by breaking or evading tackles to keep the ball in motion.

Taylor Adams (34 disposals @ 79%, 307 metres gained, 14 contested possessions, 20 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 13 kicks, 21 handballs, 6 marks, 4 tackles, 6 score involvements, 9 clearances, 6 centre clearances, 3 stoppage clearances & 4 Inside 50s) had a prolific game as the team's main extractor from clearances with his ability to gather the ball cleanly and dish out handpasses from packs a sight to behold. Adams did struggle to kick the ball accurately though when he had time and space to use it effectively by foot. Thankfully for the Magpies, his contested ball and clearance work outweighed the missed targets he had when he kicked the ball.

Steele Sidebottom (33 disposals @ 85%, 194 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 28 uncontested possessions, 13 kicks, 20 handballs, 7 marks, 2 tackles, 1 goal assist, 9 score involvements, 3 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances, 3 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) thrived as the club's acting skipper with a profound display of handpasses and short kicks that resulted in scoring chains being completed with his desire and will to move the ball on smartly and quickly after he took marks, or ran into position to receive handpasses to continue the team's aggressive and high-octane ball movement which paid dividends.

Chris Mayne (26 disposals @ 92%, 196 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 23 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 13 kicks, 13 handballs, 11 marks, 4 score involvements & 2 Rebound 50s) played in a different position on the wing, which was made possible by the return of Jeremy Howe in defence, which allowed Mayne to play higher up the ground, and Mayne demonstrated his trademark composure with the footy by taking the first option every time to maintain possession and provide defensive coverage when it was required throughout the afternoon and evening.

Will Hoskin-Elliott (23 disposals @ 74%, 403 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 19 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 17 kicks, 6 handballs, 12 marks, 2 Marks Inside 50, 2 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 1 goal) provided a link-up option between the arcs where he took his marks. Hoskin-Elliott generally looked to kick long to a contest which didn't always suit the brand of footy that the team wanted to play.

Brodie Grundy (22 disposals @ 77%, 173 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 15 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 18 hit-outs, 11 kicks, 11 handballs, 10 marks, 6 tackles, 4 score involvements, 4 clearances, 4 stoppage clearances, 3 Inside 50s & 1 goal) showed ability in all facets of his game against Nic Naitanui by breaking even in his ruck contests, made an effort to tackle regularly, before displaying his prowess around the ground by clunking several marks. The amount of marks that Grundy took enabled him more opportunities and time to kick the ball. I don't think Grundy has ever taken 10 marks in a single game before until now, and I would like to think he will be able to this more often for the remainder of the season and the following season in 2022.

Finlay Macrae (16 disposals @ 88%, 171 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 11 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 6 kicks, 10 handballs, 4 marks, 2 tackles, 1 goal assist, 6 score involvements & 4 Inside 50s) demonstrated his strengths more often by finding the time and space required to kick the ball to his team's advantage. Only had 6 kicks, but they were noticeable when he drifted forward from the midfield. Macrae was also able to dig in and get his hands dirty to release handballs to teammates who had more time to attack or defend.

Jack Crisp (36 disposals @ 89%, 320 metres gained, 8 contested possessions, 28 uncontested possessions, 10 intercept possessions, 18 kicks, 18 handballs, 9 marks, 2 tackles, 5 score involvements, 2 clearances & 3 Rebound 50s) created high-quality ball movement and transition with a number of excellent kicks and swift handpasses to keep the footy moving without fail. Crisp also backed himself in to take intercept marks in the right place at the right time.

Brayden Maynard (30 disposals @ 90%, 401 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 23 uncontested possessions, 9 intercept possessions, 25 kicks, 5 handballs, 11 marks, 2 Contested Marks, 4 score involvements & 3 Rebound 50s) complimented Jack Crisp beautifully with equally exquisite foot skills coming out of defence, while judging his intercept marking to perfection.

Jeremy Howe (24 disposals @ 92%, 330 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 20 uncontested possessions, 5 intercept possessions, 15 kicks, 9 handballs, 10 marks & 4 Rebound 50s) returned to AFL level seamlessly where he was able to fit back into Collingwood's defence like a glove. Howe displayed poise and composure with his ball use which was extremely effective, while his marking behind the play was assured as ever.

Trey Ruscoe (22 disposals @ 86%, 359 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 19 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 19 kicks, 3 handballs, 9 marks, 3 tackles, 3 score involvements & 5 Rebound 50s) proves to be a revelation as a defender with his desire to bite off kicks in the corridor a notable feature. Ruscoe worked hard defensively to take marks before commencing counter-attacks with kicks that resulted in chains of handpasses further afield by his teammates to surge the footy forward at every available opportunity for the team to take marks up forward or have shots at goal.

Isaac Quaynor (19 disposals @ 74%, 294 metres gained, 9 contested possessions, 10 uncontested possessions, 7 intercept possessions, 8 kicks, 11 handballs, 3 marks, 3 tackles, 3 score involvements, 3 Inside 50s, 2 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) found his feet and form with a sound display of defence before drifting forward in the last quarter to boot his first AFL goal which had everybody in raptures.

John Noble (22 disposals @ 82%, 317 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 18 uncontested possessions, 14 kicks, 8 handballs, 10 marks, 2 tackles, 1 goal assist, 7 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 1 goal) was given a new role as a small forward for the Magpies, and Noble did not look out of place across half-forward with his lead-up work enabling him to take marks and create scoring opportunities for his team, before capping off his game with a goal as a reward for his hard work.

Trent Bianco (15 disposals @ 53%, 187 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 12 uncontested possessions, 12 kicks, 3 handballs, 9 marks, 2 Marks Inside 50, 1 goal assist, 4 score involvements & 2 goals) could not hit the side of a barn with a number of several uncharacteristic and inexplicable kicking errors. However, Bianco was able to convert a couple of goals to mask the amount of clangers he had produced.

Brody Mihocek (15 disposals @ 87%, 204 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 12 uncontested possessions, 12 kicks, 3 handballs, 11 marks, 3 Marks Inside 50, 6 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 2 goals) built his game on leading and presenting at the ball carrier with high distinction. Because of this, he was able to take marks in dangerous spots, and managed to impact the scoreboard meaningfully with a couple of goals to signify the effort and workload he had put in as Collingwood's spearhead.

Jamie Elliott (14 disposals @ 64%, 240 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 11 uncontested possessions, 11 kicks, 3 handballs, 7 marks, 3 Marks Inside 50, 5 tackles, 4 score involvements, 2 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances & 2 goals) bobbed up forward with a couple of majors, and worked hard for the amount of marks he was able to take when the ball came from the midfield.

Josh Thomas (14 disposals @ 71 %, 210 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 10 uncontested possessions, 11 kicks, 3 handballs, 6 marks, 2 goal assists, 7 score involvements, 3 Inside 50s & 1 goal) has endured a rough and tough season before producing his finest game of the 2021 season with high score involvement numbers where he set up a couple of goals, got on his bike to take marks across half-forward, before chiming in with a goal in what was a solid contribution.

Oliver Henry (11 disposals @ 73%, 128 metres gained, 2 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 6 kicks, 5 handballs, 5 marks, 2 Contested Marks, 3 Marks Inside 50, 3 goal assists & 6 score involvements) competed strongly to claim a handful of marks, before setting up goals for teammates in better positions to convert goals that Henry would normally choose to kick himself. Three quality games in a row for Ollie, as he becomes more accustomed to life as an AFL footballer.

Jack Ginnivan (10 disposals @ 70%, 225 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 7 uncontested possessions, 8 kicks, 2 handballs, 5 marks, 1 goal assist, 5 score involvements, 5 Inside 50s & 1 goal) adjusted quicker to the tempo of AFL footy in his second game (Ginnivan struggled on debut against Port Adelaide the previous game) by leading up at the kicker and created scoring forays from those marks. Ginnivan's moment in the sun came in the shadows of quarter time, where he sunk a bomb from outside 50 to nail his maiden AFL goal. All of his teammates got around him to acknowledge the moment of jubilation.

Darcy Cameron (9 disposals @ 89%, 121 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 6 uncontested possessions, 5 hit-outs, 6 kicks, 3 handballs, 5 marks, 1 goal assist, 4 score involvements & 1 goal) provided an option up forward to claim a handful of marks and made the most of a very simple shot at goal of which he was able to convert. Cameron was also used sparingly in the ruck when Grundy was being assessed by medical staff. Grundy was cleared of any damage to relieve Cameron of ruck duties, which enabled Darcy more time up forward where he was needed.

Collingwood's next game will be against Hawthorn on August 8 at the MCG. Collingwood's first game ever in Tasmania for premiership points will not be going ahead as Tasmanian premier Peter Gutwein has called the game off, which has resulted in the contest being played in Melbourne. The game will also be an interesting subplot regarding Alastair Clarkson who will be coaching Hawthorn for the remainder of the 2021 season before handing the reigns over to Sam Mitchell who will coach Hawthorn from 2022 instead of 2023. Time to send Clarkson out on a losing note, and continue the dominance from the victory over the Eagles with an equally commanding display against the Hawks on Sunday.
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Post by joemamone@gmail.com »

History tends to suggest that caretaker coaches do well initially! One good win does not make one a good coach just as one bad loss does not make one a coach bad.

I wish people would just leave the Bucks comparison alone. I can recall many a game when we would start off in a blaze of glory under Bucks only to have the players go into their shell. Does the game against Carlton ring a bell!!

I just hope everyone stops the comparison game and just moves forward. I cannot see how constant reviews of Buckley will make us a better team.
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Really enjoyed watching the win, and I know this is the Collingwood fan board, but gee they just didn’t show up. That’s probably as poor a performance from any opposition all year - and this crowd have some form for that. Granted - our team still had to execute, which they did, but if I had to summarise rationally I’d say they gifted us a win.
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Yesterday was close to the perfect game and why not when everyone buys in

The senior players set example for kids to follow & follow they did

Things like JDG with most likely a clear path to goal chose to drill a kick to Henry and we still got the goal

Henry trapping the Sherrin then sighting Sidey a cracking good hand pass to Sidey in goal square

All in all great. Only thing is it’s occurred occasionally not regular like
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schuey07 wrote:
doriswilgus wrote:Magnificent win.So enjoyable to watch,especially the first three quarters,.DeGoey is starting to come of age,and Sidebottom had his best match of the year as well.All in all things are looking up,I knew we weren’t as bad as people were making us out to be,
We were never that bad, just poorly coached.
Correct, played with freedom (although low expectations atm) , confidence grows and skills increase , Robert Harvey coaching with zero ego putting the club first - solid person
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Thanks again JC

I reckon Henry is like the 'where did he come from?' type.

He just seems to bob up in good positions with no one on him.

Must have a good tank and is quick.
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^^^^

Great call on the ego thing.
Harvey just seems so level and sure. I never imagined he could rub off on the playing group in his coaching pathway. The anchor has definitely been unshackled.
Can you imagine how good the players feel now with the game they love to play. It was so painful for us to watch but I reckon the boys didn’t know any better as they bought into the old regime. They would be enjoying training this week.
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think better wrote:Thanks again JC

I reckon Henry is like the 'where did he come from?' type.

He just seems to bob up in good positions with no one on him.

Must have a good tank and is quick.
At times he had McGovern marking him. It didn’t matter, he burned him off in the marking contests.
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joemamone@gmail.com wrote:History tends to suggest that caretaker coaches do well initially! One good win does not make one a good coach just as one bad loss does not make one a coach bad.

I wish people would just leave the Bucks comparison alone. I can recall many a game when we would start off in a blaze of glory under Bucks only to have the players go into their shell. Does the game against Carlton ring a bell!!

I just hope everyone stops the comparison game and just moves forward. I cannot see how constant reviews of Buckley will make us a better team.
Why must we leave the comparisons alone? Harvey has been in the seat for a couple of months now, this wasn't just an emotional caretaker coach win, and it is plainly obvious that he has got the team playing on more and using the corridor more. It has been a slow burn (always had to be, players can't change old habits overnight) but yesterday culminated in what we have seen growing the past few weeks. Yes, WCE were as poor as any team we've ever seen, but that's not our problem.
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joemamone@gmail.com wrote:History tends to suggest that caretaker coaches do well initially! One good win does not make one a good coach just as one bad loss does not make one a coach bad.

I wish people would just leave the Bucks comparison alone. I can recall many a game when we would start off in a blaze of glory under Bucks only to have the players go into their shell. Does the game against Carlton ring a bell!!

I just hope everyone stops the comparison game and just moves forward. I cannot see how constant reviews of Buckley will make us a better team.
Why must we leave the comparisons alone? Harvey has been in the seat for a couple of months now, this wasn't just an emotional caretaker coach win, and it is plainly obvious that he has got the team playing on more and using the corridor more. It has been a slow burn (always had to be, players can't change old habits overnight) but yesterday culminated in what we have seen growing the past few weeks. Yes, WCE were as poor as any team we've ever seen, but that's not our problem.
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^ ^ ^

Let’s hope everyone is still as upbeat about Harvs “ new game plan “ after our next loss. History tends to show that’s not a likelihood on here.
A nutless monkey could have coached a win against that insipid gutless mob yesterday.
I’m rapt for the players and Harvey but let’s not draw the “ wasted decade “ long bow just yet because we played against training cones and this is suddenly our new norm.
It was only a week ago Harvey should have been sacked on the spot because he picked Cox as the medical sub. A week is a long time in footy.
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