Should athletes have a say in corporate sponsorship?

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Perhaps the best comment came from the remarkable Gideon Haigh; a marvellous Australian writer, sports writer and thinker:

“For decades sport has been a docile billboard for the transmission of corporate self indulgence…” and “ Sports people are being treated as stupid and corporations and their media backers are expecting them to be dumb vessels and appreciate the crumbs off the table of rich people” … or similar words.

[eddiesmith]

Sure in your delusional world there is billion dollar companies run by fellow woke individuals that have been dying to sponsor sporting organisations but just haven’t been able to get their foot in the door…

[David]

My Dad has many opinions, on many things that I don't totally agree with, but if some smart mouth wants to have a go at him, they'll have to go through me first. I'm definitely not going to be 'apologising' for any of his opinions, to anybody.

It's when we all start working together that the real healing can take place. It's sad that the flag burning, insult hurling, hard done by crowd will never be appeased.

Your dad is expressing views as a private citizen. But if you name your company Skids Senior Pty Ltd and it turns out some of the things he’s said and done haven’t been so flash, then you can’t really employ that defence. Nobody’s saying you have to "cancel" him or take responsibility yourself, but as the public custodian of his legacy and fortune you’d be expected to at least acknowledge and confront this stuff when it arises.

I wouldn’t be giving Price any benefit if a doubt: the darling of the extreme right. That a player dare question the ultra rich resulted in the biggest dummy spit this country has seen. What we need to question is not just the greenwashing by Australian tax subsidised business who barely pays any tax but why Sport is in bed with them in the first place.

The netballers were more than prepared to wear the mining logo at the same time one player had issues. Being inclusive the players supported her but chose to continue to wear the logo. Gina dummy spat big time and her hangers on in the extreme right think they’ve found their stick to beat the so called “woke” brigade. A silly label that says nothing and contributes little except gets a few right wing rednecks excited; It’s stupid and ignores the facts.

However the same was said with cigarette and alcohol sponsorship in many respects. Hancock mining will be replaced.
We need to do the same with gambling. In as far as mining is concerned especially like those of Hancock mining it will draw more attention to her political connections and the lack of tax paid by not just her company but many others.

Good riddance Hancock. It doesn’t take much for her to say her father was a racist scumbag of the highest order or words to that effect. May she choke on some iron ore. It would represent one less mining parasite living off public subsidy and not paying their fare share.

Perhaps players need to lick the bootstraps of their sponsors while licking the floor for the leftovers the rich like to leave. How dare they have an opinion let alone express it.

Well said, particularly the last part. Amazing, the distortions and bad faith being employed to make the little guy the villain and the oligarch the victim in this story. The key takeaway from all this from Rinehart and her fellow travellers is "you’ll eat your gruel and you’ll enjoy it".

[think positive]

bullshit!

its over something that happened 38 years ago!

and it was not done by Gina, who owns the company and donated the sponsorship!

the bad guy is long dead!

again, sins of the father!!!!

[Skids]

Another to praise Mrs Rinehart for her contributions to Indigenous Australians was Clinton Wolf, managing director of National Indigenous Times and non-executive director of Madalah LTD, a not-for-profit that offers secondary and tertiary education scholarships for Indigenous children in Western Australia.

https://madalah.com.au/board/clinton-wolf-2/

He argued that Mrs Rinehart had let her actions do the talking over the years.

“The Madalah Board’s decision ended up being correct because when it comes to supporting Indigenous education In Western Australia, it is Industry that has stepped up to the plate to address the widening funding shortfall.”

Mr Wolf said Rinehart’s Roy Hill Community Foundation developed the Hanrine Futures Program, approaching Madalah to partner with them to secure scholarships.
https://www.royhill.com.au/roy-hill-fou ... -students/

“The Roy Hill Community Foundation quickly committed to a multi-year, multimillion-dollar funding arrangement to ensure that many Indigenous kids could now have the opportunity they so desperately needed.” he continued.

“The Roy Hill Community Foundation’s Hanrine Futures Program funded by the Hancock Group of companies will provide long-term scholarships as well as training, work experience and internships through to employment.”

“Did Madalah agonise over partnering with Mrs Rinehart and her companies? Absolutely not.”

“Madalah is proud to say that Mrs Gina Rinehart’s companies are among Madalah’s most important sponsors and supporters.”

Mr Wolf took umbrage with links being made between Gina Rinehart and her late father, Lang Hancock’s past comments about Indigenous people.

It is said Mr Hancock’s unsavoury comments from the 1980s about sterilising Aboriginal people was a driver behind Indigenous player Donnell Wallam’s hesitance to wear the company’s logo.

“Since when do we judge someone because of who their parents are or were or what they said?” Mr Wolf said.

“What people perceive about someone is often the exact opposite of who that person actually is.

“Madalah’s experience has been that Mrs Rinehart is a kind and generous person who genuinely cares about Madalah and its Indigenous students.

“Mrs Rinehart should be applauded for her generous sponsorship of Netball Australia, Madalah and a host of other very worthy causes that desperately need financial support, which she supports without fanfare.

“While others have criticised her from the sidelines, she does deeds with a good heart. Actions always speak louder than words.”

https://www.news.com.au/sport/netball/t ... d0a1e9d23e

[stui magpie]

That article Skids quoted is also here https://www.nit.com.au/when-it-comes-to ... han-words/

Notable that the school approached industries for money because the state government wouldn't fund them.

She gave Netball Australia $15m, someone got upset about something her father said 38 years ago so she just said, you know what, if the sponsorship is making some players uncomfortable, we'll cancel it. Problem solved.

People really think that she instead should have said she was sorry for something her dad said and beg them to please take her money?

The only thing her father did that she should apologise for is Rose Porteous.

[pietillidie]

^That sort of stuff is trivial news cycle crap. The much more important point about parasites like Rinehart is that they didn't get the money they use to play god and run PR campaigns for themselves because they were improving the country and people's lives. Instead, she helped keep the wrecking Glibs in power over that whole period I mention above while riding a mining boom at the expense of other industries like technology, green energy, the life sciences, and the environment.

Withdrawing a few crumbs to the peasants is meaningless when you've aggressively supported trillions of dollars of economic, democratic and environmental damage. She not only helped wreck the future-forward mineral resources tax, but also helped turn Australia into global warming, science-hating central.

If the economy was more balanced there would be more money to support women's sport without handouts from the likes of Rinehart. Instead, young Australians can't afford homes, tech entrepreneurs have to go overseas, universities have to parasite off foreign students just to keep their doors open, no one can manage fires or floods, the environmental destruction from her global warming denial and science scoffing is costing billions every year, and Australian species are dropping like flies.

[think positive]

That article Skids quoted is also here https://www.nit.com.au/when-it-comes-to ... han-words/

Notable that the school approached industries for money because the state government wouldn't fund them.

She gave Netball Australia $15m, someone got upset about something her father said 38 years ago so she just said, you know what, if the sponsorship is making some players uncomfortable, we'll cancel it. Problem solved.

People really think that she instead should have said she was sorry for something her dad said and beg them to please take her money?

The only thing her father did that she should apologise for is Rose Porteous.

this i really dont get why people cant see that!

as for that article, wow i had no idea,

good on her


- as for PTID mining posts, split the thread, it has nothing to do with the sponsorship that this thread is about.

[What'sinaname]

That article Skids quoted is also here https://www.nit.com.au/when-it-comes-to ... han-words/

Notable that the school approached industries for money because the state government wouldn't fund them.

She gave Netball Australia $15m, someone got upset about something her father said 38 years ago so she just said, you know what, if the sponsorship is making some players uncomfortable, we'll cancel it. Problem solved.

People really think that she instead should have said she was sorry for something her dad said and beg them to please take her money?

The only thing her father did that she should apologise for is Rose Porteous.

There's a generation that know actions speak louder than words. Gina is a part of that generation.

Then there's the current generation who want to be seen to be saying the right thing, regardless of their actions.

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Player power:

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/if-the- ... e41d09f0f3

[David]

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[David]

[What'sinaname]

.....and more free publicity for Hancock Prospecting and Gina, key sposors of the Australian Olympic Committee and will be integral to sending more than 1,000 athletes to Paris in 2024.

[David]

Hope she sees this bro