Recreational cyclists

[Pies4shaw]

Bikes should not be allowed in the City. We don't let people ride horses and buggies anymore as commuter transport in the CBD. There should just be public transport and pedestrians.

[stui magpie]

In Santa Monica there seems to be a big cycle culture, with none of the issues we have. Cyclists aren't trying to win the tour de france, they're just going along.

There's a massive shared pathway along the beach from Santa Monica Pier to Venice Beach and while the cyclists are going faster than pedestrians and joggers, they're not going fast enough to create a problem.

The key differences seem to be speed and attitude. The cyclists there don't seem to think that they own the space, can do what they want and everyone needs to watch out for them, unlike here.

[watt price tully]

Bikes should not be allowed in the City. We don't let people ride horses and buggies anymore as commuter transport in the CBD. There should just be public transport and pedestrians.

Next time I need some legal advice I'll go to town planning.

[Pies4shaw]

In Santa Monica there seems to be a big cycle culture, with none of the issues we have. Cyclists aren't trying to win the tour de france, they're just going along.

There's a massive shared pathway along the beach from Santa Monica Pier to Venice Beach and while the cyclists are going faster than pedestrians and joggers, they're not going fast enough to create a problem.

The key differences seem to be speed and attitude. The cyclists there don't seem to think that they own the space, can do what they want and everyone needs to watch out for them, unlike here.

Yes, I think that's right. I never had a problem in Copenhagen, either - the place is full of bicycles but there is much less lycra and - so far as I could see - no cycling stupidity at all.

[Wokko]

MAMIL Cyclists riding 3 abreast on country roads in 100 zones on hill crests was enough to turn my ambivalence into disdain. Cyclists are the rudest, most self entitled pack of wankers on the roads.

I'm not in favour of registration, but only because my libertarian leanings hate Government selling people back the rights to do things, but I'd be all for cyclists being more heavily policed on our roads. If they don't follow the rules of staying in their designated lanes, riding multiple cyclists abreast and running red lights then their bikes should be impounded just like car hoons. Get the antisocial morons off the road and let the cyclists with regard for others have their hobby without the hatred of motorists tarring the lot of them.

[stui magpie]

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If they did that up the Goulburn Valley highway, they'd quickly be removed from the road and the gene pool by the bull bar of a B double.

[watt price tully]

[HAL]

Do you like talking to me? What happens the rest of the time?

[stui magpie]

I reckon you should all be giving cyclists a big thank you for not driving their cars when they commute to and from work as it makes less motor vehicles on the road.

How does that work? Cyclists are a PITA on the road. They don't accelerate as fast and they are slower, so they create issues for the cars behind them trying to safely overtake. A number of times I've seen cyclists on a 2 lane road pass all the traffic on the left at a red light so they start off in front at a green one, slowing a whole lane of traffic behind them.

Compared to motorcycles most bicycles are unsafe to be on a road with cars. Skinny tyres and light frames with a body perched way above the centre of gravity makes them a death trap if you have to brake suddenly.

[watt price tully]

I reckon you should all be giving cyclists a big thank you for not driving their cars when they commute to and from work as it makes less motor vehicles on the road.

How does that work? Cyclists are a PITA on the road. They don't accelerate as fast and they are slower, so they create issues for the cars behind them trying to safely overtake. A number of times I've seen cyclists on a 2 lane road pass all the traffic on the left at a red light so they start off in front at a green one, slowing a whole lane of traffic behind them.

Compared to motorcycles most bicycles are unsafe to be on a road with cars. Skinny tyres and light frames with a body perched way above the centre of gravity makes them a death trap if you have to brake suddenly.

Less cars on the road. Where I ride Brighton Road, St kilda Road then Swanton street has lots of cyclists and lots of cars. Designated bike lanes. Less cars on the road = less traffic for motor vehicle drivers.

They need to build better bike infrastructure out your way because the single lanes are terrible (I would never ride there : in peak hour especially) It should be two lane and / or build a bike lane next to the road.

[Mugwump]

[Pies4shaw]

[watt price tully]

[Pies4shaw]

What's a PITA pedestrian? Is that some poor b*&^@rd who decides to take his life in his own hands by walking along a pavement that cyclists would like to use as a bike freeway?

[stui magpie]