The 'me too' movement

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https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/j ... inst-actor

The Federal Court site established for the case includes the various submissions etc, as well as this morning’s judgment: https://www.fedcourt.gov.au/services/ac ... nationwide

Well done P4S: I was looking for the thread on Geoffrey Rush. Wasn’t her too it seems.

[K]

[Pies4shaw]

^ A process (in modern usage) by which the State issues an executive direction. The most common example in ordinary discourse is the letters patent appointing a royal commission. The point being made is that NSW Bar Association has no power to revoke the "QC" post-nominals because they were granted by The Crown.

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https://www.smh.com.au/national/verdict ... 56nj2.html

not guilty all charges

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A nice Christmas present: hope he sues for the pain, hurt and damage

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Woody Allen not guilty also:

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.the ... rs-surname

Oh wait, he was never guilty to start with.

[David]

A nice Christmas present: hope he sues for the pain, hurt and damage

Maybe not exactly a vindication, though:

The magistrate said Mr McLachlan likely touched the women while they were performing, but might have believed they were consenting due to his "egotistical, self-entitled sense of humour". However she was not persuaded beyond a reasonable doubt he knew they weren't consenting, which is an element of the charge.

Ms Wallington found he "probably" did use his tongue to kiss his co-star onstage but couldn't be satisfied beyond a reasonable doubt. She also accepted the kisses and hug basckstage and the face push onstage all happened but wasn't convinced they constituted an indecent assault or common assault.

After delivering her verdicts, the magistrate praised the four women, criticised the way defence lawyers questioned the women and indicated her verdicts might have been different had she applied the current law regarding an accused's belief about a complainant's consent. Because the allegations were from 2014 she had to apply the way the law stood then.

"Were the current law applicable it is possible the result may have been different," she said.

Ms Wallington said the women's accounts were credible and there was no evidence of collusion between them and no motive behind their decisions to report the allegations to police.

"The four complainants were brave and honest witnesses," she said.

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Consent for what exactly though David? Using a tongue to kiss? Well f*ck me

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^

That requires consent too.

I hope he suescandvwins big on hi case against the media, his career is farked, time for some recompense

[David]

Consent for what exactly though David? Using a tongue to kiss? Well f*ck me

Don’t ask me, I wasn’t there! But yes, as Stui says, you can’t just slip a tongue in unexpectedly on a fellow actor on the job if it’s not clear that they’ve signed up for that. It’s obviously not in the realm of rape or anything but could certainly constitute sexual harassment. I also thought the judge’s comments about the credibility of the plaintiffs and about McLachlan’s general disposition seemed pretty damning.

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These days it certainly could. It’s a difficult one, I’m surprised they came forward,I’d probably have jabbed him with my knee at the time, times changed, laws changed, attitudes change. No winners here, and it certainly points to should the media have had his name and been allowed to drag it through the mud?

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Consent for what exactly though David? Using a tongue to kiss? Well f*ck me

Don’t ask me, I wasn’t there! But yes, as Stui says, you can’t just slip a tongue in unexpectedly on a fellow actor on the job if it’s not clear that they’ve signed up for that. It’s obviously not in the realm of rape or anything but could certainly constitute sexual harassment. I also thought the judge’s comments about the credibility of the plaintiffs and about McLachlan’s general disposition seemed pretty damning.

I think Stui was referring to my exclamation David. A slip of the tongue despite being uninvited is of course not in the same continuum as rape. Precious petals. Bugger me. What happened to a good old slap, **** off what do u think you’re doing and all the rest. To make it indecent assault is bizarre. I have a good mind to get that woman, put her over my knee and give her an overdue non sexual smack

[David]

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I would say **** off who do you think you are and embarrass them publicly if I was in semi sexual show like she was.,

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He was found Not Guilty, but his career and means of income have been seriously damaged, perhaps irreperably.

This isn't the 80's, any improper behaviour should be called out at the time and there's ways of doing it. I'm with WPT on this one.