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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:48 pm
by K
mattdally wrote:Surely everyone on here doesn’t believe he could have gotten away with it and not said anything. The AFL had his phone’s IP address and the device he used to place the bet was on Stevo’s phone.
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That's not what they are reporting.

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:49 pm
by Piethagoras' Theorem
3rd degree wrote:
Raw Hammer wrote:I just hope the club lets this one rest and doesn’t make any further formal statements or let Jaidyn be interviewed on footy shows or websites. Just shut up shop from here on need, and focus on playing football.
Agree keep him off 360
or 365!

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:53 pm
by K
Presti35 wrote:Had this happened last year, it would have cost him the rising star award.
This year, it could cost us a premiership.

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:55 pm
by Raw Hammer
FrankieGoesToCollingwood wrote:
3rd degree wrote:
Raw Hammer wrote:I just hope the club lets this one rest and doesn’t make any further formal statements or let Jaidyn be interviewed on footy shows or websites. Just shut up shop from here on need, and focus on playing football.
Agree keep him off 360
or 365!
Boom tish

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:06 pm
by Piesnchess
K wrote:
Presti35 wrote:Had this happened last year, it would have cost him the rising star award.
This year, it could cost us a premiership.




Yes, that is undeniable, it damn well could, I hope not, but it could if we lose some games by under a goal, and lose top four spot. The jury is out. :?

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:17 pm
by simon tonna
think positive wrote:
PyreneesPie wrote:
Piesnchess wrote:
Maybe, just maybe, the dude who placed the bet for him threatened to blackmail him, to keep quiet, have u considered that that possibility, I dunno, but its possible. :?
Yep, anything is possible. Especially if his mate (or has a mate) supports another team!! :wink:

Just finished looking at the video of his press conference and the feeling I got is he's still just a boy!!! His bewildered facial expressions say that even he doesn't understand what made him do it!

Geez, the expectations we place on all these kids as AFL footballers is incredible. They may have the physical skills to do what we demand of them, but their brains are still physiologically immature and so, psychologically they are also still so immature. Makes me feel a bit sad really.
this

there are some bloody self-righteous buggers here looking for sainthood!
And the self righteous buggers make me sick to my stomach

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:24 pm
by What'sinaname
Still don't get how the penalty was worse than Heath Shaw. Heater bet using inside information re: Maxwell playing forward. I would have thought that was worse. Yet Heater = 8 weeks, Steph, 22 weeks

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:25 pm
by think positive
Harrysz wrote:Think positive, making a spelling error is a mistake, misinterpreting a glance as an invitation is a mistake, picking the wrong answer in a quiz is a mistake. Doing something that you know is wrong is not a mistake.
Call it what you like, it's not a mistake.
Stevo knew what he was doing was a breach of the rules.
He knew what he was doing was wrong.
Calling it a mistake gets him off the hook, and undeservedly so.
The punishment's harsh but what he did was deliberate. It was no mistake.
I’ve already explained my reasoning, my disappointment, hemade a bad choice, it was $36 he wasn’t trying to be a millionaire, he’s not a gambling addict. I’m not letting him off the hook at all, I always, always preach responsibility for ones own actions, I’m just not gonig to castrate him for it. No one died, no one had a chance of dying, or being injured, and yes he deserves to be punished. How about punishing him to scale? It’s been a shitty week for the AFL, this was a godsend to them, make no mistake. He didn’t thump someone three weeks running, on camera, and only get pinged the third time, and only got 1 week, he didn’t pinch and stamp on players 2 weeks running and only got 2 weeks, he didn’t smash a kids face in and only get 8 weeks, he didn’t hit someone at a junior footy match and get zilch like a certain coach, and he did not get caught, he owned it. Unlike the drug cheat bombers who still think they did nothing wrong!

10 weeks is overs, it’s pure and simple Collingwood loading.

I’m not deluded, I am pissed off, and I am upset to the point of tears when I watched the presser, but again, he’s a 2o year old, footy players ain’t brain surgeons, obviously what has been drummed in is not enough. I’ll bet you my last dollar other kids are doing it and DONT. Self report.

My dad dished put overs punishment my whole life, it makes me sick to my stomach. The AFL. Is a damn disgrace, it’s all bullshit. Just like tobacco advertising, they won’t shut it down because of the almighty dollar. And it’s still advertised above his picture!

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:26 pm
by Piesnchess
AND how come Stevo cant play some VFL games ?? to stay match fit, at least, ?? Hypocritical AFL, that fattens itself on gambling revenue, now sinks the boot in to the kid, making sure he wont be match fit by Finals time. ! And how convenient this shit comes down, the day after google eyes McLaughlan goes on TV, and makes a complete fool of himself, re treating fans like shit, with his so called claytons "apology" what a coincidence, hey !!

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:27 pm
by think positive
What'sinaname wrote:Still don't get how the penalty was worse than Heath Shaw. Heater bet using inside information re: Maxwell playing forward. I would have thought that was worse. Yet Heater = 8 weeks, Steph, 22 weeks
The mind boggles

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:32 pm
by Piesnchess
think positive wrote:
Harrysz wrote:Think positive, making a spelling error is a mistake, misinterpreting a glance as an invitation is a mistake, picking the wrong answer in a quiz is a mistake. Doing something that you know is wrong is not a mistake.
Call it what you like, it's not a mistake.
Stevo knew what he was doing was a breach of the rules.
He knew what he was doing was wrong.
Calling it a mistake gets him off the hook, and undeservedly so.
The punishment's harsh but what he did was deliberate. It was no mistake.
I’ve already explained my reasoning, my disappointment, hemade a bad choice, it was $36 he wasn’t trying to be a millionaire, he’s not a gambling addict. I’m not letting him off the hook at all, I always, always preach responsibility for ones own actions, I’m just not gonig to castrate him for it. No one died, no one had a chance of dying, or being injured, and yes he deserves to be punished. How about punishing him to scale? It’s been a shitty week for the AFL, this was a godsend to them, make no mistake. He didn’t thump someone three weeks running, on camera, and only get pinged the third time, and only got 1 week, he didn’t pinch and stamp on players 2 weeks running and only got 2 weeks, he didn’t smash a kids face in and only get 8 weeks, he didn’t hit someone at a junior footy match and get zilch like a certain coach, and he did not get caught, he owned it. Unlike the drug cheat bombers who still think they did nothing wrong!

10 weeks is overs, it’s pure and simple Collingwood loading.

I’m not deluded, I am pissed off, and I am upset to the point of tears when I watched the presser, but again, he’s a 2o year old, footy players ain’t brain surgeons, obviously what has been drummed in is not enough. I’ll bet you my last dollar other kids are doing it and DONT. Self report.

My dad dished put overs punishment my whole life, it makes me sick to my stomach. The AFL. Is a $$%^%%$ disgrace, it’s all bullshit. Just like tobacco advertising, they won’t shut it down because of the almighty dollar. And it’s still advertised above his picture!




Well said T P, you said it all, could not have put it better myself, my son now just walked in from work, and said, "Dad how come Gaff smashed that kids face in broke his jaw, spat teeth, and got lesser than this ??" He thinks like us, make no mistake, this is a stich up, as I said above, the kid cannot even play VFL, no match fitness, its a stichup, pure an simple. :!:

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:45 pm
by 4everpies
It was reported on SEN by Sam McClure that Jeremy Howe convinced Jaidyn to self report.
After the St Kilda game, Jaidyn told Howie that a team mate had cost him his multi. Obviously the alarm bells went off with Howie & the rest is history.
This makes more sense to me, as I couldn't figure out why Jaidyn felt guilty after the third bet. Why not the first or second?
Thanks Howie, good leadership.

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:45 pm
by What'sinaname
Harrysz wrote:Think positive, making a spelling error is a mistake, misinterpreting a glance as an invitation is a mistake, picking the wrong answer in a quiz is a mistake. Doing something that you know is wrong is not a mistake.
Call it what you like, it's not a mistake.
Stevo knew what he was doing was a breach of the rules.
He knew what he was doing was wrong.
Calling it a mistake gets him off the hook, and undeservedly so.
The punishment's harsh but what he did was deliberate. It was no mistake.
Take drugs, self report and you get a strike with no effective sanction. Doing it again, you get another strike!!!!

Go figure!!!

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:51 pm
by qldmagpie67
I called it this morning they would make an example of him to take away the issue of overbearing security guards
It was always going to be a harsh penalty

The thing is there's now a rumour that he inadvertently mentioned something about going close on a multi in front of a team mate who told him he was in huge trouble if this came out
If the rumour is true and going by his own statement he knew he was doing the wrong thing then self reporting was a way to get out of as much trouble as possible by being proactive

There isn't a excuse for his actions players are schooled heavily on this stuff
He's made a huge error and is going to pay a huge price 10 weeks + $20k fine and $50k in lost earnings
Our team is now weakened and he has to understand how many people he's let down
Slap him up the ear then put a arm around the kid and hope he learns his lesson and comes back to the fold knowing he owes his club and does repays it in spades

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:57 pm
by Cam
4everpies wrote:It was reported on SEN by Sam McClure that Jeremy Howe convinced Jaidyn to self report.
After the St Kilda game, Jaidyn told Howie that a team mate had cost him his multi. Obviously the alarm bells went off with Howie & the rest is history.
This makes more sense to me, as I couldn't figure out why Jaidyn felt guilty after the third bet. Why not the first or second?
Thanks Howie, good leadership.
Imagine if he hadn't told Howie and it continued all season before he was caught... we'd have been talking seasons of bans not weeks. He was going to get caught no matter what, just a matter of time. At least he will be back for finals, and fresh.

It will give JT a chance to kick a few more, maybe Daicos gets a game... It hurts, but no use crying over spilt milk.