2020 US election results

watt price tully · Post by **watt price tully** » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:39 am

swoop42 wrote:
Pies4shaw wrote:Biden leads the count by more than 7 million votes.
Stop peddling fake news P4S.

The actual headline was:

Biden leads the c**t by more than 7 million votes.

Lazza · Post by **Lazza** » Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:14 pm

^^^^^^

GOLD

Post by **Pies4shaw** » Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:36 pm

It's not (quite) confined to the US, sadly.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-07/ ... s/13039040

Post by **Pies4shaw** » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:05 pm

Objections to the Presidential vote in Arizona have been considered by the House and the Senate and rejected. An objection to Georgia failed. We are at Montana and will shortly get to Pennsylvania, which is a possible objection. It's now pointless, of course, because it cannot change the overall election result (even if it were not anti-democratic, insane bilge).

Post by **Pies4shaw** » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:07 pm

Oh, wait, someone from Alabama has objected to Nevada. That objection will fail, because there is no objection from any Senator.

watt price tully · Post by **watt price tully** » Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:39 pm

Pies4shaw wrote:It's not (quite) confined to the US, sadly.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-07/ ... s/13039040

Bernie Finn: who’d a thunk

doriswilgus · Post by **doriswilgus** » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:00 pm

Who would have thought that something as beautiful,as fair and as fundamentally decent as the Trump presidency would end in such violence?Honestly,how could you ever foresee something like that happening?

Seriously this is what you get when you elect a lying,criminal sociopath like Trump president.The old saying is that you reap what you sow,and Americans are certainly paying the price for the terrible mistake they made four years ago.Let’s hope they’ve learned their lesson and they never vote for a creature like Trump ever again,

Post by **Pies4shaw** » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:46 pm

^ It's worth saying, again, that the vast majority of American people were not responsible for Trump's election. Those that voted against him, those that were ineligible to vote and those that did not vote all reaped what others sowed.

roar · Post by **roar** » Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:14 am

Pies4shaw wrote:It's not (quite) confined to the US, sadly.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-07/ ... s/13039040

That will help keep him in opposition for another ten years. Excellent!

Tannin · Post by **Tannin** » Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:52 am

Pies4shaw wrote:^ It's worth saying, again, that the vast majority of American people were not responsible for Trump's election. Those that voted against him, those that were ineligible to vote and those that did not vote all reaped what others sowed.

No. A flat no to that. In a democracy - any democracy - all citizens have rights (one of those is the right to vote) and all citizens have responsibilities - one of those is the responsibility to vote. Voting isn't just a right, it is a duty. By failing to perform that duty, millions of Americans enabled Trump and all the horror that has followed.

It is the same with many criminal offences: inaction can still be a crime just like active offending. You are the lawyer, you will know much better than I do how this distinction is treated in cases of (for example) murder, industrial accident, road accident, theft, and so on, but even I know that the bottom line is that, generally speaking, criminal inaction - failure to perform a duty - is treated as a lesser but still significant form of the criminal act, and punished as such.

Post by **stui magpie** » Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:32 am

I was reading an article that mentioned that Trump's 74 million votes was more votes for a President than anyone previously. I thought that couldn't be right so I checked.

Fun facts, the 2020 election had the highest voter turnout since 1900 with 66.7%

Trumps 74 million votes was 11 million more than he got when he won in 2016. Let that sink in for a second, 11 million more people voted for Trump in 2020 than voted for him in 2016.

Biden's 81 million votes was 16 million more than Clinton got in 2016

Despite the largest voting turn out in US history, the final margin of 7 million votes barely makes the top 10 largest. The biggest margin ever being 17.99 Million by Nixon in 1972

More fun facts loosely around Tannin's post above.

The total US population is around 330 Million. Around 80 Million of that is under 18 so that leaves roughly 250 Million people of voting age.

155 Million voted so 95 million for whatever reason, didn't.

Post by **David** » Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:41 am

^ It is hard to understand how Trump managed to get more votes than last time around (and so many more, at that). But I think it's fair to say that he was a much more dogged campaigner in office than many previous presidents have been. He pretty much never stopped holding rallies throughout the four-year period.

What's not surprising is the massive turnout for the other side.

Post by **Pies4shaw** » Mon Jan 18, 2021 1:14 pm

1972 Grand Final - Carlton 28.9 (177) v. Richmond 22.18 (150).

That Richmond score would have won or drawn every Grand Final played up to that year, too.

Post by **stui magpie** » Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:24 pm

Wonderfully relevant piece of trivia.

Post by **Pies4shaw** » Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:24 pm

Here's another. If it had still been 1789, he would have beaten Washington's 43,782 votes by about 74 million.

There were under 225,000,000 people of voting age in the US in 2016. By 2019, the figure had increased to 255,000,000. It will have been higher again by 2020 (but I can't find a sensible projection at the moment). If two-thirds of the 2019 newbies vote, that's another 20 million votes. There's been a bit of an increase for both sides - but it's largely accounted for by population increase.

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2020 US election results