Post match. Dogs down Pies - All comments.

[AN_Inkling]

I don't say this often, but that was terrible, just a truly awful "effort".

We can not even console ourselves with saying that the Bulldogs played well. They didn't particularly. They won contested ball but they often do that. If we were as organised in defense as a bottom 4 side, we would have won and won easily, they were not beating us in one on ones.

The truth is we were outworked and our organisation was disgraceful, as bad as last year, which gifted them many easy goals.

There were also mistakes at the selection table. Thomas, Ball and Adams should not play together. Ever. White, Grundy and Witts should only play together sparingly.

Who was terrible? Adams, White, Grundy, Ball, Thomas (maybe harsh on the last two, but I'll explain later if I can be bothered).

Who was good? Cloke, Pendles, Dwyer, Langdon.

Broomhead did look a neat and pacy player, even with his limited touches.

And if anyone tries to tell me Adams was good because he had 30 disposals, I'm gonna spew!

How we traded Shaw and picked up a player with even worse disposal I'll never know. He either has the worst case of stage fright ever or he's one of the worst users of the ball in the comp. Slow of foot and even slower of mind. Cost us a chance to win it in the last few minutes because he had no clue about what he should do with the ball.

[3rd degree]

If we really rested beams then I am disapointed , a big reality check for our side today , good that CLoke kicked 6 and Elliot 4 but we are definitely played A desperate side and we needed to turn up in saying that we only just lost.

[doriswilgus]

Just saw Blair's stats on the A.F.L website.7 possessions,one point and a 28% disposal efficiency.If he doesn't get dropped for that,when will he ever get dropped?

[axl13]

I can't believe big Will rucked all game that was a huge effort. They were killing us all game with clearances.

[didick]

we dropped fasolo ok he didnt play well qb rested beams brought in broomhead. did we get ahead of ourselves resting players

To be honest I thought our team sucked the moment Beams withdrew and we didn't replace him with Fasolo.

The coach needs to wear the blame for this loss. Resting our premier midfielder and playing a first gamer against a team under the pump all week has to rank as one of the dumbest decisions I've seen in a long while.

+1 Could feel a hard day when I heard Beams was out. We r not good enough to be resting our engine room against a side that is good around the clearances.

[AN_Inkling]

I can't believe big Will rucked all game that was a huge effort. They were killing us all game with clearances.

And yet we played all three of our inside specialists to combat this.

[warburton lad]

Only positive to come out of today is that we can stop torturing ourselves with delusions of grandeur. We now will not finish top 4 and therefore cannot win the flag. 2015/16/17 internally was always the aim. Poor supporters got sucked in to thinking otherwise. Now we know why!!

Tend to agree with Pies 08 here. I know he's probably had a few tonight, but this time he's spot on.

We have a young side and the aim of 2014 should be to get as many games as possible into some good young kids to load up for the next three years...

Notwithstanding that, we should aim to win as many as possible and still go for top four.

Not without a chance against Hawthorn if Cloke monsters Schoenemakers.

[woftam]

I can't believe big Will rucked all game that was a huge effort. They were killing us all game with clearances.

And yet we played all three of our inside specialists to combat this.

Well it didn't help that Caff played in the guts most of the day & had zero clearances, while supposedly tagging Griffen who had 8. All of them centre clearances. Only laid 2 tackles all day as well. But Caff never gets heat for it.
Griffen took him to the cleaners as Dangerfield did in our last loss.

[Sherrin Stand]

I think that we just overrated the current position on the list. Taylor Adams will be a great player though he needs games to integrate into out way of playing. There is a big difference cruising around for GWS with no expectations against playing for the biggest club in the league where every team treats it as their Grand Final when they play us.

I do agree with some comments regarding Blair and I think the same goes for Goldsack. To push for a premiership we need players who can pressure and tackle and also get involved in the game.

Our disposal is what is killing our team at the moment. We struggle (other than pendles) to hit targets and consistently make the right decisions. Until we improve this we will be 5-8 ladder material. I believe we have the young players to do this though we need to get games into them (and they need to earn them).

Overall I think we looked gone at the start of the last quarter. The six day break seemed to take its toll which does concern me for the hawks next week when we back up with another 6 day break. Teams seem to struggle when they have consecutive 6 day breaks and if we play like today it could get ugly!

[HAL]

That may take a while.

[holdencaulfield]

Season over now.

Adams is useless. Worst footballer in our team. Should never play another senior game.

True, Season over now. This is why Pies are not a genuine top-four side. Ball slaughtering butchers, this bullshit been going on for three seasons under Buckley, with no sign of improvemnt.
Adams not as bad as Blair though.
Blair absolutely THE worst footballer i've ever seen in a Collingwood jumper. It is an absolute disgrace that he was given Lockyer's spot in the team in 2010, it still makes me sick to the stomach.
His subbed-out grand final effort in 2011 is the true reflection of his ability: zero. To see him retained over Didak and Krakouer made me ill.

Another home truth - Swan: finished. Utterly infuritating non-efforts while f*cking Footscray c*nts stormed past him while he stood still. F*ck off and retire to hang out with your gangster mates. I've had a gutful of you over the past three seasons. Lost any respect for you after the Suns game last July.
Other match-losers: Thomas, just pox. Seedsman, fail.

Hawthorn will rip this mob new arse next week by 10-12 goals, even if Beams returns.

Umpires pathetic cowards again today, let that team of talentless shit scrag us, and ride us into the ground for four quarters.

And Lappin, go throw yourself off a bridge.

Dyso

Take a chill pill.

[Mugwump]

I can't believe big Will rucked all game that was a huge effort. They were killing us all game with clearances.

And yet we played all three of our inside specialists to combat this.

Well it didn't help that Caff played in the guts most of the day & had zero clearances, while supposedly tagging Griffen who had 8. All of them centre clearances. Only laid 2 tackles all day as well. But Caff never gets heat for it.
Griffen took him to the cleaners as Dangerfield did in our last loss.

Quality observation. Amid all of the bagging of Adams, the point you just made was probably a decisive factor. If you are going to play as a tagger, you need to actually shut down an aooponent as well as having little impact yourself.

[Culprit]

The dogs have played good footy all year but haven't been able to do that for four quarters. Today they did and we had to many cheats in the team who were spectating and waiting for the easy ball.

Beams and Goldy massive outs on reflection. If they were rested big mistake.

[Beast]

We have been playing poor football for a month or more now.

Lose to Adelaide, lucky to beat West Coast, a training run against the saints, struggle to beat the demons and now lose to the dogs.

Hopefully is the wake up call some needed at the club and this board to realise we aren't top 4 material right now despite what the ladder suggested.

Once again today we struggled to get it inside 50 and despite Cloke kicking 6 and Elliott 4 still couldn't beat a bottom 6 side.

It's pretty clear to me that we lack genuine structure and fluency when we bring the ball forward and seem to rely to much on an individuals talents to make the right decision at the time rather than play to a strict playbook.

It might work out in the medium term but right now it's leading to haphazard passages of play and inconsistent performances.

Next week will make or break our year.

5 weeks actually, we played a decent 1/4 and a bit against the worst carlscum side in decades but reading this board you wouldn't know it.
3 inside mids against the side that has no answer for outside run was a stroke of genius by Bycks...

[woftam]

And yet we played all three of our inside specialists to combat this.

Well it didn't help that Caff played in the guts most of the day & had zero clearances, while supposedly tagging Griffen who had 8. All of them centre clearances. Only laid 2 tackles all day as well. But Caff never gets heat for it.
Griffen took him to the cleaners as Dangerfield did in our last loss.

Quality observation. Amid all of the bagging of Adams, the point you just made was probably a decisive factor. If you are going to play as a tagger, you need to actually shut down an aooponent as well as having little impact yourself.

Exactly - We get no offensive game from him at all & he can't win clearances. Yet he takes up one of the 4 midfield spots in the centre for most of the game.
We have too many role players who are doing bugger all offensively.
Blair gives us next to nothing in attack & neither does White. Goldy is another role player, but at least he can play several positions.