Crimes that deserve the death penalty?

[think positive]

The guy who started the Hird to Collingwood rumour. Electric chair. Now.

[think positive]

Men ma y u rot on hell u insensitive pricks

[David]

What, all of us?

[stui magpie]

[Mugwump]

I tend to think of the death penalty as theoretically defensible in a world of perfect judgement, but practically impossible to defend because of the fallibility of trial processes in finding the truth.

One of the tricky questions, though, is why I find the death penalty theoretically reasonable, but torture not. Both are, of course, forms of corporal punishment, yet I think of torture as intrinsically disgusting and barbarous and unjustifiable, and I suspect many ordinary people feel the same.

I suppose it is because the infliction of pain is simply vengeful, whereas the swift termination of life, as dispassionately as possible, is purposeful : it returns the community to a state of relative safety through the extinction of its enemy. Torture (by which I mean post-judicial corporal punishment) does not seem to have any restorative benefit to the community at all.

It is one thing to turn existence into nothingness as swiftly as possible (or, if you are religious, to refer the matter to a higher court) ; it is another, far more barbarous thing, to turn existence into hell for no obvious benefit to anyone.

Do you instinctively find torture and capital punishment equivalently bad ? Or one "less bad" than the other ? Or one quite reasonable and the other not . If so, why?

[David]

[Pies4shaw]

Does Julian Knight miss his family?

Not with the New Hoke Long Range Rifle Sight.

http://www.kermitool.com/hoke_rifle_sight.html

[think positive]

What, all of us?

Hehe I actually don't remember picking up my iPad last night! It was the perfect storm. The fifth anniversary of my Mums passing, and we went on a MaiTai sunset cruise! First I was having too much fun and apparently my SIL got upset because she misses Ian and all of us having a great time was a reminder that he's not coming back, and then I wasn't allowed to get a little misty eyed over my mum for the same reason according to the other half! Couldn't have ended too badly though, apparently I crawled off to bed singing 'good old Collingwood forever' at the top of my lungs! - I should add that apparently janine wasnt upset, she was having a good time too, but her feelings are what they are, and it's understandable. Cheers, I'll let you live! One more night in paradise and back to reality, please tell me spring has hit with a vengeance! It's been 30 plus everyday, even at night it's still around 25.

[think positive]

Does Julian Knight miss his family?

Not with the New Hoke Long Range Rifle Sight.

http://www.kermitool.com/hoke_rifle_sight.html

I'll pull the trigger on that prick!

[HAL]

Really you don't think so?

[Morrigu]

One more night in paradise and back to reality, please tell me spring has hit with a vengeance! It's been 30 plus everyday, even at night it's still around 25.

Break out the credit card change your flight and book a few more nights - this for the next week in Melbourne Yukkity Yuk YUK!

[think positive]

Ugh, yuk, cheers! I'm very tempted actually, to say bye at the airport gate and run back out and find a beach shack over the other side of the island to chill on my own for a week! But I miss my dogs!

[ronrat]

34 degrees every day here. Was hotter yesterday. Dogs are lazing about. Got a news sofa bed delivered this morning. They like that too. Delivered and set up included for 100 dollars.

[stui magpie]

Does Julian Knight miss his family?

Not with the New Hoke Long Range Rifle Sight.

http://www.kermitool.com/hoke_rifle_sight.html

I'll pull the trigger on that prick!

Don't use one of those glorified open sight contraptions, get a good scope.

http://bestgunscope.com/sniper-rifle-optics/

Choose which eye to put the bullet in at 1km away and watch it hit.

[think positive]

And this guy, this guy should be like the port Arthur guy, locked in a small cell on his own forever. An hour a day of sunlight, so he knows what he's missing. No TV. Unless it's stuck on abc.

Lol! If you're going down this path, you need to learn from Orwell and Room 101. Everyone's worst nightmare is different. For me, it'd be Channel 9 on full blast. Or one of the American 'entertainment' channels on Foxtel.

On the other hand, I'd willingly commit crimes to get some good ABC reception.

so watched the last episode of El Chappo season 1 last night, and really got me thinking. of course you have to factor in bias - they make him almost likable at times, and then show his brutal upbringing at the hands of a ^&*^*% father - and i cant help thinking just let him out to avenge the killing of his mates missus and kids - but back to my main point!

Hes in a jail and the punishment is similar to what i described. And seeing his and another prisoners reactions to it, im not sure too many people actually deserve it, think id rather take a bullet myself! but then i just googled it and some of the inmates there - geezus, scary!!