US Midterm Elections 2018
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David
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Well, yes, there's a lot of elite in both major parties (including Trump, who's a member of the US elite and always has been). They're both ultimately subservient to big capital, and have plenty of space for the mega-rich to not only be part of the show but to more or less run it from the top.
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Yes exactly. Republicans USED to be the "big Capital" party. Dems more than ever in their history are now becoming the party of elite and mega rich.David wrote:Well, yes, there's a lot of elite in both major parties (including Trump, who's a member of the US elite and always has been). They're both ultimately subservient to big capital, and have plenty of space for the mega-rich to not only be part of the show but to more or less run it from the top.
Difference I think is the Trump is honest about it, is calling it out and is fundamentally for LESS government while the Dems are for more. This is why Trump is appealing to the middle class and has growing appeal among the poor.
Just my thinking, may be wrong.
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Which also poses an interesting problem for them.MJ23 wrote:Yes exactly. Republicans USED to be the "big Capital" party. Dems more than ever in their history are now becoming the party of elite and mega rich.David wrote:Well, yes, there's a lot of elite in both major parties (including Trump, who's a member of the US elite and always has been). They're both ultimately subservient to big capital, and have plenty of space for the mega-rich to not only be part of the show but to more or less run it from the top.
They are the party of choice for many of the mega rich and elite who come from an Arts or IT background
They are also the party of choice for the left leaning uni students as, despite not actually being left wing in any way, shape or form, they're slightly further left than the republicans (meaning they're borderline centre right) so they're the only option in a 2 party system.
Will they allow the influx of various degrees of left wingers to take over the party and fundamentally shift and change it or will they resist? If they resist, the degree of resistance will determine the level of support they lose or gain.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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Cant really disagree with anything written above by all. Identity is the Dems biggest issue. Even the leadership knows if it leans too far left the middle of America will not vote for them. In the end they may not need it to but a huge risk.
The direction they settle on I think will be decided in the Primaries. Beto seems well backed and the Dems have set a record in the money funnelled into his Texas campaign. Ironically, the money came from their base in the eastern and western seaboards where the candidates come from that he will compete against.
In the end things like the promise of universal healthcare as well as free or funded tuition will attract votes especially from the young - it will never ever be enacted. The same way the wall wont get funded and the guns wont get banned.
The direction they settle on I think will be decided in the Primaries. Beto seems well backed and the Dems have set a record in the money funnelled into his Texas campaign. Ironically, the money came from their base in the eastern and western seaboards where the candidates come from that he will compete against.
In the end things like the promise of universal healthcare as well as free or funded tuition will attract votes especially from the young - it will never ever be enacted. The same way the wall wont get funded and the guns wont get banned.
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Meanwhile, it appears that the Democrats will finish the mid-terms with an increase of at least 37 seats in the House (and a majority of at least 36) and the Republicans will finish with an increase of 2 seats in the Senate (and a majority of either 5 or 6).
Meanwhile, it appears that the Democrats will finish the mid-terms with an increase of at least 37 seats in the House (and a majority of at least 36) and the Republicans will finish with an increase of 2 seats in the Senate (and a majority of either 5 or 6).