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eddiesmith wrote:Great win, shows yet again how overrated a ruckman is and spending a million a year on one is sheer lunacy.
Fantastic to see Henry bounce back from last weeks shocker and redeem himself. Our small and medium forwards look fantastic, we really are one key forward away from a gun forward line.
Starting with your anti Grundy BS again.
We would have won by 10 goals if he played today, and would won a few more games.
But as I’ve said previously- if you believe we’re better without him, then tell us how much higher we’ll finish on the ladder compared to before his injury.
Just watched Fly's presser, as usual I loved it.
Really elevated Noble, referred to his efforts as moments that we cherish.
He was just so effusive in his praise about the entire team.
He radiates warmth.
He projects the aura of a great teacher. He commended Henry, on how he responded to last week's errors with such resilience. He referred to how Henry stayed back after training to practise his set shots.
He also emphasised the huge role of the assistant coaches and insisted on giving them as much credit as himself.
Fly is a genuine teacher. His warmth, his belief, and his generosity are clearly having a big impact.
^Yeah, few people in any field of endeavour put in for the team like Noble. Every time I worry he's not good enough he does that, which says a lot about his character. Great game from both him and indeed the coach.
That's the sort of endeavour and toughness every single quality side has that just cannot be bought.
After three 6 day breaks in a row, the boys have a 9 day gap leading into Sundays game. Hopefully the illness is out of the players system, they are refreshed and they are raring to go.
Losing Pendlebury for C Brown before the bounce last week was huge. Pendles on-field coaching, 25 possessions and decision making make the team so much better. When the mids were getting smacked at centre bounces in the first quarter, Pendles would have injected himself. Yes, we can't rely on him forever, but the way he is going, he has at least 2 years to go.
Henry dropped this week? About a million to one. 5 marks inside 50 in a half will get you a game every week. Hopefully spending a few sessions this week on his goal kicking routine.
Begg looked full of bounce and gave 2nd and 3rd efforts in his first 2 games. Was as flat as a tack on Friday. Hopefully the longer break sees him regain his form from his first 2 games (if picked ahead of Cox).
Ginnivan and Elliot back up forward is exciting. J Daicos goes back to his wing where he was flying.
I'm looking forward to Sunday's game. We may not win, but I think we will look more like the team from a few weeks ago.
Boys were raring to go.
Pendles leadership can never be doubted. Cool and clean as always.
I was wrong about Henry being dropped.... but one could argue after his performance, he shouldn't have been.
Begg will be back. Maybe even this week. His 2nd and 3rd efforts would have only been beneficial today.
Ginnivan, Elliot and McCreery played together in the forward line for the first time since rounds 1 and 2 - both wins.
J Daicos back on his wing was excellent.
Great win - great way to finish the weekend. Go Pies.
Check the resemblance with Tom Cruise in an early movie!! (Henry)
Nah Nicholas Hoult is Henry’s doppelgänger
Most of my favourite bands start with "M" - Mars Volta, Mastodon, Megadeth, Metallica, Midnight Oil, Misfits...except King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard ~
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Nah Nicholas Hoult is Henry’s doppelgänger
Granted...much closer resemblance.
But Henry is still clearly different.
Henry's eyes are magnificent. His eyes have a charisma, a clarity which I think no doppelganger will really be able to match.
Mr Miyagi wrote:Geez. We have Leonardo Ginnivan Di Caprio and Tom Oliver Henry Cruise
Good resemblance yeah
Nicholas Hoult is Henry’s doppelgänger
Most of my favourite bands start with "M" - Mars Volta, Mastodon, Megadeth, Metallica, Midnight Oil, Misfits...except King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard ~
Granted...much closer resemblance.
But Henry is still clearly different.
Henry's eyes are magnificent. His eyes have a charisma, a clarity which I think no doppelganger will really be able to match.
Most of my favourite bands start with "M" - Mars Volta, Mastodon, Megadeth, Metallica, Midnight Oil, Misfits...except King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard ~
Interstate trips to Perth can be daunting, but Collingwood were able to flip the script against Fremantle at Optus Stadium by adapting quicker to the wet conditions, and brought the ferocity, intensity and pressure to overwhelm the Dockers by 36 points. The first quarter was evenly poised, before Collingwood got a decisive break on their opponents to build a comfortable buffer at the main break. The third term saw both sides break even, until the Magpies piled on the goals in the last quarter to conjure a resounding victory by 6 goals. It was great witnessing the pressure and intensity that Collingwood were able to produce, and make greater inroads with fewer disposals in inclement conditions the Magpies were able to exploit against the Dockers.
Collingwood won their statistical categories from sources such as kicks by +9 (228 - 219), clearances were won by +1 (45 - 44), while stoppage clearances were up by +2 (35 - 33). Tackles had a differential of +29 (89 - 60), with Tackles Inside 50 won by +11 (15 - 4). Marks Inside 50 had an advantage of +6 (8 - 2), and Inside 50s were won by +14 (60 - 46). Fremantle won their categories from disposals by +47 (396 - 349), +56 for handballs (177 - 121), hit-outs had a margin of +26 (59 - 33), while centre clearances were won by +1 (11 - 10). Contested possessions had a differential of +23 (175 - 152), +43 for uncontested possessions (213 - 170), while Fremantle won the marks count by +10 (72 - 62), with uncontested marks also won by +10 (60 - 50). Intercept possessions (82 each) and contested marks (12 apiece) were the only neutral categories from a very damp contest.
Patrick Lipinski (29 disposals @ 59%, 280 metres gained, 11 contested possessions, 18 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 15 kicks, 14 handballs, 6 marks, 3 tackles, 1 goal assist, 3 score involvements, 5 clearances, 5 stoppage clearances, 3 Inside 50s & 2 Rebound 50s) got better as the game went longer by winning contested ball inside the contest, before spreading out to the wings to take his marks. Lipinski was a very solid contributor in tough conditions despite being culpable of some skill errors.
Jack Crisp (27 disposals @ 59%, 480 metres gained, 16 contested possessions, 11 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 16 kicks, 11 handballs, 3 marks, 5 tackles, 4 score involvements, 8 clearances, 3 centre clearances, 5 stoppage clearances, 7 Inside 50s & 1 goal) provided forward territory for his forwards at every opportunity, and displayed his will to win contested ball and contribute heavily on clearance numbers to generate ball movement. Finding targets in wet conditions was very challenging for Crisp and everybody else out there, but Crisp showed desire to compete and give his team the best chance of obtaining supply up forward to score goals.
Steele Sidebottom (23 disposals @ 61%, 410 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 16 kicks, 7 handballs, 4 marks, 3 tackles, 4 score involvements, 2 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances & 5 Inside 50s) gave great drive on the wing by accumulating enough possessions to then have an adequate impact when he won possession to move the ball forward at all costs. Nice to see Sidebottom respond with class after an indifferent period of time where he had previously been struggling to find the level of form he produced against the Dockers in Perth.
Josh Daicos (20 disposals @ 60%, 446 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 14 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 14 kicks, 6 handballs, 3 marks, 3 tackles, 2 goal assists, 3 score involvements, 6 clearances, 2 centre clearances, 4 stoppage clearances & 7 Inside 50s) mixed his time on the wing with stints in the midfield and performed admirably. Josh Daicos was able to generate forward supply, and set up three goals in the second half to Hoskin-Elliott once and Henry twice to prove he could find targets up forward after having initial difficulties hitting targets up forward early on in the game. The conditions did not allow for perfect footy, so Josh did what he could do to the best of his ability under the circumstances.
Taylor Adams (20 disposals @ 45%, 337 metres gained, 12 contested possessions, 8 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 16 kicks, 4 handballs, 3 marks, 9 tackles, 3 score involvements, 5 clearances, 5 stoppage clearances & 2 Inside 50s) was prepared to get his hands dirty and surge the ball forward at every opportunity when he won possession, while Adams was able to stick his tackles to deny the Dockers continous ball movement from stoppages.
Jordan De Goey (19 disposals @ 58%, 452 metres gained, 14 contested possessions, 5 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 10 kicks, 9 handballs, 2 marks, 4 tackles, 3 score involvements, 7 clearances, 2 centre clearances, 5 stoppage clearances & 5 Inside 50s) won his own ball from clearances, won the contested ball frequently and offered forward supply when he found time and space to execute his possessions.
Tyler Brown (12 disposals @ 75%, 152 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 7 uncontested possessions, 2 hit-outs, 6 kicks, 6 handballs, 2 marks, 6 tackles, 2 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances, 3 Inside 50s & 2 Rebound 50s) offered something different to his midfield role by taking the ruck for a handful of minutes in the third term to relieve Darcy Cameron who was the only recognised ruckman after Mason Cox had started the game but was subbed out with an injury to his finger. Brown was also able to provide excellent tackling which he has been doing lately, since he has not demonstrated that he can accumulate effective possessions from the midfield.
Darcy Cameron (12 disposals @ 75%, 195 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 5 uncontested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 22 hit-outs, 9 kicks, 3 handballs, 7 marks, 3 contested marks, 8 tackles, 2 Tackles Inside 50, 2 score involvements, 2 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances, 2 Inside 50s, 2 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) was colossal in the ruck after Mason Cox was subbed out of the game by giving his midfield enough opportunities to win clearances out of the middle at centre bounces and stoppage around the ground. Cameron was able to apply several tackles to follow up his own ruck work to ensure he could play as an extra midfielder.
Nick Daicos (23 disposals @ 74%, 259 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 17 uncontested possessions, 6 intercept possessions, 13 kicks, 10 handballs, 4 marks, 2 score involvements, 3 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances, 2 Inside 50s & 4 Rebound 50s) accumulated his possessions behind the ball and was highly effective with his execution. Nick Daicos was able to find targets or give his team opportunity to compete aerially and create stoppages from his possessions out of defence.
John Noble (18 disposals @ 67%, 364 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 12 uncontested possessions, 6 intercept possessions, 13 kicks, 5 handballs, 4 marks, 5 tackles, 1 goal assist, 4 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 4 Rebound 50s) gave great run and carry coming out of defence, and demonstrated his will to smother and spoil the ball when it was his turn to go. Noble's ball use came with errors, but there was no denying his competitiveness and dare off the last line of defence to break the lines and create chaos ahead of the ball.
Scott Pendlebury (16 disposals @ 69%, 176 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 5 intercept possessions, 6 kicks, 10 handballs, 9 tackles, 3 clearances & 2 centre clearances) showed control behind the ball and executed his tackles, before being moved into the midfield to win a couple of clearances which generated and maintained momentum.
Isaac Quaynor (13 disposals @ 69%, 191 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 8 uncontested possessions, 6 intercept possessions, 9 kicks, 4 handballs, 4 tackles, 2 Inside 50s & 3 Rebound 50s) created enough run and carry out of defence to contribute to the team's ball movement.
Brayden Maynard (13 disposals @ 69%, 271 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 8 uncontested possessions, 7 intercept possessions, 12 kicks, 4 tackles, 3 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 3 Rebound 50s) acclimatised to the conditions by looking to kick the ball at every opportunity and with a high level of effectiveness, which he was able to provide for his team. Maynard made sure he kicked long or to the team's advantage to maintain possession of the footy.
Jeremy Howe (13 disposals @ 100%, 281 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 8 uncontested possessions, 8 intercept possessions, 10 kicks, 3 handballs, 3 marks, 2 Inside 50s & 3 Rebound 50s) gave great drive off half-back with his kicking game findind targets or reatining possession with a high level of accuracy, and ended up taking a contender for the Mark Of The Year in 2022 during the third term, which would've got every Collingwood fan out of their seats.
Darcy Moore (12 disposals @ 83%, 308 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 5 uncontested possessions, 8 intercept possessions, 8 kicks, 4 handballs, 4 marks, 2 contested marks, 2 tackles, 2 Inside 50s & 4 Rebound 50s) was impressive with his work in marking contests, and made sure the majority of his possessions were kicked to the team's advantage.
Will Hoskin-Elliott (14 disposals @ 64%, 297 metres gained, 9 contested possessions, 5 uncontested possessions, 8 kicks, 6 handballs, 3 marks, 2 Marks Inside 50, 1 goal assist, 5 score involvements, 3 Inside 50s & 2 goals) provided a great avenue to goal by accumulating enough possessions up forward to have an impact on the scoreboard.
Jamie Elliott (13 disposals @ 46%, 125 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 7 kicks, 6 handballs, 2 marks, 4 tackles, 2 Tackles Inside 50 & 2 score involvements) worked hard for his possessions up forward and his forward pressure and will to tackle was very good.
Oliver Henry (13 disposals @ 77%, 198 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 11 kicks, 2 handballs, 5 marks, 3 Marks Inside 50, 1 goal assist, 6 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 4 goals) burst to life in the second half with 4 second half goals, including 3 in the final term to put the result beyond doubt. Henry replaced Mason Cox during the first half as the medical sub and produced a match-defining performance when his team needed him, and Henry was able to take his chances after being wasteful in his previous game. Henry has set the standard, now he needs to ensure he does not make blues in front of the sticks against the Blues next week.
Jack Ginnivan (12 disposals @ 50%, 357 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 8 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 11 kicks, 2 marks, 3 tackles, 2 Tackles Inside 50, 5 score involvements, 3 Inside 50s & 2 goals) was very lively up forward by putting pressure on and drawing head-high free kicks. Ginnivan hit the post twice so he could easily have kicked 4 goals on another day, which will hopefully occur next week. I was amazed at Ginnivan celebrating prematurely to the Dockers cheer squad in the final quarter before booting his second goal into the top tier and let them know all about it after he completed the play to put the icing on the cake.
Brody Mihocek (6 disposals @ 83%, 3 contested possessions, 3 uncontested possessions, 5 kicks, 6 tackles, 4 Tackles Inside 50, 2 score involvements & 2 goals) set up his game with two goals from close range in the first half to give his team impetus and progress to the eventual result.
Collingwood's next game will be against Carlton on May 29 at the MCG. This game will be hotly contested and the Magpies will need to produce the same intensity and pressure at the contest to overcome the Blues. Taking chances in front of goal will ultimately determine the result of this contest.
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"We were disappointed with our efforts last week and we came over with a purpose. We were sort of wanted to find our DNA again if you like. We went back to work early in the week about what that looked like. We come here with good optimism, but clearly you're playing a really good team so you've got to still execute that part of the game".
The conditions were as wet as they've been. What was your message to adapt to those conditions?
"The great thing is our style stacks up in the wet. We want to be a territory team which is what you do in the wet weather. We were sort of smiling to be honest when it started raining. We were sort of going 'here we go, we like to play in the wet' and we have an opportunity to display that. It's about taking territory and fighting to get to contest to contest to make that part of the game. Clearly today, we did that".
Did you have to change anything up at quarter time after giving away free kicks and was it discussed with the players?
"Yeah, it was. To be honest, I wasn't sure whether there was a directive around anything towards the boundary that was deliberate because it just seemed like that. I'm not sure I got that before the game, so I did ask the question. But, yeah we did, we talked about going a little bit away from the boundary and start to be a little bit more attacking, which actually suits our style anyway".
How would you describe the mindset of the players with their tackling pressure and intensity for four quarters?
"I'm really proud of the boys, really proud. Last week, we were disappointing. Tonight, we were proud. It's about repeating those behaviours. I just felt that we looked like a more organised, measured and disciplined team tonight and last week we looked the complete opposite. It's pleasing to get Jamie [Elliott] back into the team and Pendles; these guys are good drivers of those things. Coaching from the boundary line, you just see every little thing and how connected they were with their organisation. I'm really proud of that".
A special day for Ollie Henry. What did you make of his performance?
"It's a great lesson for resilience. Last week, he kicked 1.4 or whatever it is. I spoke to him during the week about staying more present and making the most of the opportunities you have. One of the hardest things in the game is getting the ball in your hands and he did that last week. Today, he looked like a player who had more composure. Credit to the kid, he went back and worked on his craft all week. I was looking out of my window and everyone else had gone home and he's doing goal kicking, and so he gets an opportunity to execute so it's a great lesson of resilience for him".
Cox suffered a finger injury. What's the prognosis?
"It's one of those cases of it coming down to the skin, I'm not sure what that's called. I didn't study medicine. Unfortunately, he had to be subbed out".
If your VFL was playing, is there a chance Henry would have been left home to get his confidence back in the reserves?
"I'm going to speak openly. His position in the team was up for grabs. We talked about that for half an hour at match committee. We've got a number of players we want to give opportunities to and he's a young player who's certainly one of those. We're a developing team. We have moments where our players will stand up and grab the moment and there are others where we have to learn from those lessons, and today was one we learnt the other way".
Going into a big game against Carlton, how significant is it to find your DNA today?
"I don't want to look too far forward. I really want to enjoy this. It's not often you get to come over here and play a top 4 team and particularly against an opposition where they are on the ladder. It was an important game for us to find ourselves again. We learnt some good lessons about that and we'll worry about Carlton when we get a chance to".
What does it mean to you as a coach to bounce back after last week's performance in terms of the message you're giving to the players?
"Yeah, I've got a great belief; not just me. The assistants I have; Brendon Bolton, Justin Leppitsch, Hayden Skipworth and Scott Selwood and our development and academy team. Amazing coaches. I'm so lucky to have a team around me to support me, advise here and there. I was really clear though coming into work on Monday that we were going to be real positive and find the good in what we had been doing. I thought last week wasn't a pattern of behaviour for us. I thought it was an event, a lack of effort in parts of the game. We went there and showed them what they were like for 7-8 rounds of being a really good pressure team, good territory team and these sort of things that we revisited".
It sounds like last week's performance hurt and you took it personally?
"We want better for our fans. We played Friday night and we disappointed. Sunday twilight, I'm not sure how many got to watch it. We want them to be proud of our effort every week. We're not going to win every game, that's reality but we want them to be proud of our effort".
Everyone loves Ginnivan's personality. What did you make of him celebrating before he kicked the goal?
"What do you do there [laughs*]. You want them to be themselves. Just kick the goal and then maybe celebrate with your team-mates might be the message. He's been very good for us Jack hasn't he".
Mason Cox discarded the goggles. Was that a wet weather issue and is that a concern going forward that he's risking is his eyes if he doesn't wear them?
"I got word that he was not going to wear them. It was pouring down rain, he wouldn't be able to see much so that makes sense to me. I don't dig deep into what Mase is doing with his glasses other than he needs them to perform at the level".
Does he need to go into hospital to have his finger injury assessed?
"No, I haven't got an update of what that exactly looks like. We're flying out shortly, so clearly he won't have a chance to do that until we get back and assess it early next week".
How did you see Jeremy Howe's game? You didn't look overly impressed with his mark. Also, Darcy Moore has faced some criticism in recent weeks.
"I had a smile on my face, I like smiling. I thought they were outstanding. I thought our back 6 or 7 were outstanding today. Johnny Noble is not getting much credit for how well he's going. On Howe and Darcy [Moore], they're critical players for us. They're great leaders, they're a part of our leadership team. We've had some conversations in the last couple of weeks. It's been documented that they can play better. I thought today they led from the front and they were outstanding".
John Noble's tackle, smother and then the spoil 30 seconds later was outstanding.
"Yeah exactly. Those moments we cherish. We want to celebrate all those. We want to lead from the front on those parts of the game. It's something you've got to keep re-establishing. You don't just do it once and say 'oh, that's nice, I'll do one again next week'. We like to have our teammates inspire us and that's one great example of that".
Thought Josh Caicos’ kicking into the forwards was great in that third quarter. It looked a few times like Freo would escape and claw back ground but those l passes to dangerous positions out in front with space to run and jump at the ball we’re beautiful and helped us keep the edge til 3/4 time.
Great all round effort from the team. Howe’s screamer! Noble’s repeat defensive efforts. Forwards locking the ball in. Fly’s tactic to have a winger drop back to free up Howe. Well done pies!
Ed Allen kicked our last goal of the year at the 58minute mark of the last quarter
While adding some experience back into the team certainly helped, I thought it was a great performance from a few who regularly cop it on this forum (including from me sometimes..!)
Cameron, Noble and Tyler Brown were all very good in my view. Deserve some plaudits.
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