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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:01 pm
by Leggie
burnsy17 wrote:The rate he's going his market value is declining weekly...

Might want to kick a bag of 7 some time soon...

And by 7 i mean 7 goals.... not 1 goal, 3 behinds, 2 out on the fulls and 1 not made the distance.
A little harsh but sadly very true.

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:19 pm
by Cuthbert Collingwood
today my waters are saying Cloke is goneski - just a feeling...

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:27 pm
by chuck-e
has signed

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:31 pm
by watt price tully
the ru is on fire wrote:today my waters are saying Cloke is goneski - just a feeling...
What's that? Clokes finally taking money from the over funded wealthy private schools & putting it back into public education where it belongs?

Tell me it's true :wink:

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:38 pm
by Trezegol
the ru is on fire wrote:today my waters are saying Cloke is goneski - just a feeling...
What are they saying about the lotto numbers?

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:50 pm
by RudeBoy
I get the feeling that Cloke and his old man are doing a Scully. Given the apparent offer of plus $700,000 pa, he has had six months to decide to accept it or not. That he has not accepted it suggests he is going for bigger dough elsewhere. If that's what he wants then good luck to him. Ciao.

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:08 pm
by cityslick1
whether he stays or goes, I think it was pretty clear in the win over the Cats that he is on the outer with the players and is looking disillusioned / uncomfortable with the situation.

After watching the replay, hardly any other player spoke to him the whole night. after he kicked the goal and after the game, he looked like he had a disease, players were so keen to steer clear.

Even if he does sign, the players are smart enough to know that it will prob be at the expense of one of their mates now, and that he disrespected them and the club with his Footy Show interview.

Wayne Carey once said... "the playing group has the most power at a football club".

not good.

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:11 pm
by Big T
<3didak wrote:can't believe its round 17 and this sht is still going. Get him to sign or stop playing couldn't care less at the moment, not like he has one us a game for as long as I can remember. Id be pretty annoyed if we paid him anything 700k + and he dishes his last 10 weeks of performances up every week for 4-5 years. What waste of money
Your memory fails you then. Eagles about a month ago, kicked 5 and we won by 2 points.

We must keep Cloke! And without knowing what he is actually saying or doing atm, suggest we give him a break! People abusing him at the footy, not on.

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:30 pm
by Jezza
cityslick1 wrote:whether he stays or goes, I think it was pretty clear in the win over the Cats that he is on the outer with the players and is looking disillusioned / uncomfortable with the situation.

After watching the replay, hardly any other player spoke to him the whole night. after he kicked the goal and after the game, he looked like he had a disease, players were so keen to steer clear.

Even if he does sign, the players are smart enough to know that it will prob be at the expense of one of their mates now, and that he disrespected them and the club with his Footy Show interview.

Wayne Carey once said... "the playing group has the most power at a football club".

not good.
I fear you're onto something. You're probably right about the fact that there is disillusion amongst Cloke and his team-mates but I didn't really notice it to be honest.

Cloke better think this through.

If he doesn't re-sign, he'll be seen as a traitor amongst Collingwood and the majority of the AFL world.

If he does sign, it has to be at a realistic price and something that can afford others like Reid to stay at the club. If Cloke did re-sign but for a big money offer, I wonder how the other players would feel about it, as it would most likely mean that someone like Reid or Goldsack might be squeezed out due to the salary cap restrictions that are imposed on the club.

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:13 am
by E
Jezza wrote:
cityslick1 wrote:whether he stays or goes, I think it was pretty clear in the win over the Cats that he is on the outer with the players and is looking disillusioned / uncomfortable with the situation.

After watching the replay, hardly any other player spoke to him the whole night. after he kicked the goal and after the game, he looked like he had a disease, players were so keen to steer clear.

Even if he does sign, the players are smart enough to know that it will prob be at the expense of one of their mates now, and that he disrespected them and the club with his Footy Show interview.

Wayne Carey once said... "the playing group has the most power at a football club".

not good.
I fear you're onto something. You're probably right about the fact that there is disillusion amongst Cloke and his team-mates but I didn't really notice it to be honest.

Cloke better think this through.

If he doesn't re-sign, he'll be seen as a traitor amongst Collingwood and the majority of the AFL world.

If he does sign, it has to be at a realistic price and something that can afford others like Reid to stay at the club. If Cloke did re-sign but for a big money offer, I wonder how the other players would feel about it, as it would most likely mean that someone like Reid or Goldsack might be squeezed out due to the salary cap restrictions that are imposed on the club.
didnt Ablett cop the same shit as cloke is now copping. no-one seems to give him a hard time now. Part of the blame has to rest with collingwood. Why are we doing this inside the footy season????

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:32 am
by burnsy17
Cloke and Wood seem to be pretty tight........ not that there's anything wrong with that :shock:

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:54 pm
by Benno
I find it interesting that no journo has heard anything in the last week or so about the status. The longer it takes the less confident I am.

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:22 pm
by Darkstranger
[quote="Benno"]I find it interesting that no journo has heard anything in the last week or so about the status. The longer it takes the less confident I am.[/quote]



The long it goes to more I hate him !!!

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:27 pm
by burnsy17
^^

Hence the "ruining his brand" comment from Bucks...

The longer it goes for, the more supporters will stop 'supporting' him.

Add to that a little dip in form and there's your fuel to the branding fire.

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:29 pm
by Member 7167
I attended a Women In Black coaches night last night at the G. One gent asked about the Cloak deal during question time and any discussion was shut down with the MC stating that there was enough speculation in the media.

IMO if Cloke chooses to leave to get better money in Freo, then off he goes. He simply is not worth the money or the risk of a $5m over 5 year contract. (he's dreaming) If Freo are prepared to pay above the odds for him - their loss.