Climate change

[pietillidie]

I'll endeavour to write more long winded irrelevant crap that nobody engages with. Nothing like a trail of dead threads to really keep a discussion board fresh.

If I'd known that controversial threads on climate science were also the high point of your social calendar of course I wouldn't have resorted to logical discourse. The intention wasn't to deprive you of the many more opportunities for social affirmation that shorter posts bring. Not to mention all that plausible deniability you've grown used to living off.

Of course, there are other ways of feeling liked and right, but I've reached the Word Limit. As the holy books state:

In the beginning was the Word Limit, and the Word Limit was with God, and the Word Limit was God. For even God needs to feel liked.

[pietillidie]

The constant posting of links and memes without explanation or analysis; lack of engagement with, interest in or recognition of well-established differing views; an excited quoting of anything that agrees regardless of background, context and quality; juvenile tactics to derail and interrupt serious critique; a cringeworthy begging from fellow insiders for up-votes and bum slaps; a refusal to admit error or visit failed predictions; and a general demeanour of glibness. This pretty much describes the communication of extreme religions and cults.

And the parallels don't end there. There's the Holy Orange Prophet; the cryptic insider messages; the demonising of outsiders; the persecution complex; the apocalyptic fears; the disconnect from non-believers in the fallen urban centres; the scribal academies and commentary industry; the regular receipt of divine messages from the Prophet; the imaginary citizenship of the Promised Heartland; and the unlikely converts from distant nations, desperate to prove themselves worthy.

But [some unapproved group] does that, too! [img]Post%20Weasel%20Meme%20here[/img].

Yes, I know. These attributes alone aren't novel. But the pathological is all about clusters and grades, and the Facebook Right is weirding out at a rapid clip, morphing into something traditionally found on the far left or far right. It really is quite the cult.

[stui magpie]

I'm no longer going to be posting in this thread or on this topic.

These current bushfires should be a time when Australians come together as we have in the past when disasters happen, but I'm seeing the opposite and I'm basically disgusted.

Politicians on all sides throwing blame at each other, all trying to take some kind of moral high ground, scoring cheap political points at a time when non-partisan politics is desirable.

Climate change evangelists claiming vindication almost gleefully, hurling insults at any who dare try to offer some rational objectivity, a guy I know on Facebook posting pictures of bushfires captioned with "If you voted Liberal, this is your fault"

It's almost fitting that today is the first day of a new decade (and if you want to argue about that, go find someone who gives a phuk) because this is the tone of things to come, when shrieking, posturing and insults take the place of rational discussion.

Welcome to the 20's, the decade where rational discussion, which has been on life support for a while, will be pronounced dead.

[Pies4shaw]

Well, whether or not climate change be the cause, if you voted Liberal, it is your fault.

[David]

[Skids]

[David]

[Wokko]

Unmitigated bullshit.

[David]

At this point, isn’t this as useless as a debate between creationists and evolutionists? (You can decide which side each of us are on!) This isn’t a disagreement over interpretations of facts, but fundamentally distinct views about a central issue.

[pietillidie]

Unmitigated bullshit.

BS is people having a forceful contrarian opinion on a topic they lack even the entry-level maths to study.

BS is people demanding reckless courses of action that they would otherwise not take if they were held legally responsible for their views.

BS is people failing to insure against risk.

[Wokko]

At this point, isn’t this as useless as a debate between creationists and evolutionists? (You can decide which side each of us are on!) This isn’t a disagreement over interpretations of facts, but fundamentally distinct views about a central issue.

I think I said much the same thing earlier.

Doomsday climate hysteria has become a religion with its own dogma, messiah figures, zealots and devils. Those inside the religion consider those out of it to be heretics worthy of punishment or death and any effort to argue on the facts is met with severe cognitive dissonance, insults and personal attacks.

[pietillidie]

^I have no problem with the observation about extremism; climate change advocacy has has a worryingly apocalyptic wing.

But how that bears on people who, as I say, don't even have the entry-level maths to start studying the subject properly, let alone to justify a contrarian view, is beyond me. The most that intuitive misgivings might justifiably lead to is a slightly more conservative hedge.

That fanaticism breeds counter-fanaticism hardly makes joining them an attractive option.

[watt price tully]

David Marr’s level headed observations. He’s always been an astute observer:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -and-scorn

[think positive]

Great but sad read

Can this clown get re elected? He just has no aura at all!

[David]