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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:36 pm
by TimetoFly
Nah free agency the afl determines the worth based on how much the other club is paying him...

2 first rounders 100% with that

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:36 pm
by RudeBoy
woftam wrote:As far as I know we can't trade him because he will be out of contract?
If he goes because of free agency we will get one first round pick.
Only chance to get two is if GWS sign him & they aren't interested.
Is that scenario right or am I misinformed?
I think you are right.

Still, I would let him go anyway.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:38 pm
by woftam
RudeBoy wrote:
woftam wrote:As far as I know we can't trade him because he will be out of contract?
If he goes because of free agency we will get one first round pick.
Only chance to get two is if GWS sign him & they aren't interested.
Is that scenario right or am I misinformed?
I think you are right.

Still, I would let him go anyway.

Yeah so would I. But I don't think we would get two first rounders.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:42 pm
by makri
MattyD wrote:put him in the backline and see how he goes - a strong mark would be good.
Yep, maybe he could add to the two that he took today.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:48 pm
by roar
Compensation would be shit unless he goes to GWS, but the extra cap space could be handy.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:48 pm
by MattyD
makri wrote:
MattyD wrote:put him in the backline and see how he goes - a strong mark would be good.
Yep, maybe he could add to the two that he took today.
lol
I think what I was trying to get at it is he needs to learn to play as part of a team... I am not sure he is at the moment.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:49 pm
by HAL
roar wrote:Compensation would be shit unless he goes to GWS, but the extra cap space could be handy.
What you said was too complicated for me.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:52 pm
by makri
MattyD wrote:
makri wrote:
MattyD wrote:put him in the backline and see how he goes - a strong mark would be good.
Yep, maybe he could add to the two that he took today.
lol
I think what I was trying to get at it is he needs to learn to play as part of a team... I am not sure he is at the moment.
The only team he is playing for at the moment is TEAM CLOKE.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:57 pm
by Magpie Jack
Forget the Contract, forget the Politics, just go on form ... Drop the Bum.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:59 pm
by think positive
Dave The Man wrote:
jack_spain wrote:Can't give Cloke away now - seriously!
Why do you like Duds playing at Collingwood?
Dave i think he means no one would take him, even for free because he did so badly.

and ill second that.

rip up the offer.

new offer $500.000 for 4 years, take it or leave it, no extras, and an out clause unless he kicks 5 a match for the rest of the year.

if he wont sign, play him in the reserves, in defence. and let him damn rot.

pissed at a lot of the attitudes out there today, but no more than his. no heart, no effort.

should equal no damn money.

he is already paid plenty, how about he earns it??

Cloke watch

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:01 pm
by orie
While I am as frustrated and disappointed as anyone about Cloke's lack of impact in the last several weeks, I believe that he is carrying an injury. He is not running hard or being as tough and aggressive at the ball or the man.. I may be naive. However, if he is not 100% give him a break next week. If they do leave him out, there may be truth in what I think... If not,I suggest Travis sign ASAP because the pressure is adding on his performance and value...

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:04 pm
by warburton lad
Two draft picks, salary cap relief, and not having to deal with his old man.

Yep on all three!!!!

We need two mids and a pinch hit ruck/forward... Paddy Ryder will do.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:05 pm
by schuey07
Good to see no Cloke apologists is this thread. I am sick of the constant defence of the spud. As I said earlier, he and his old man can f$@k off.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:09 pm
by The Prototype
I love Nicks after a loss.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:11 pm
by Culprit
schuey07 wrote:Good to see no Cloke apologists is this thread. I am sick of the constant defence of the spud. As I said earlier, he and his old man can f$@k off.
Even they have wised up.