Collingwood must request a "please explain Geish"

[marooncity]

For mine it was a terrible umpiring display.
But in the end they are not helped by the constant re-interpretation of rules that happens.
I just don't understand half of it. Watching last night really brought it in to sharp relief.
Every rule has a REASON and whoever looks after the umpires and the rules has just thrown those reasons out the window.
Case in point - hands in the back. The REASON the rule exists is to stop players shoving a player out from the contest. But the interpretation forgets that completely and seems to think it's about the simple act of putting your hands on a players back. Why on earth there would ever be a rule about that is anyone's guess but that is what we now have. It doesn't make sense; it serves no purpose and all it does is anger players and spectators.
I was always taught that you couldn't get caught with the ball and if you couldn't dispose of it correctly you were penalised. The REASON for this is to promote a quick game and to reward good defensive play. Now it seems you are allowed to dispose of the ball however you want despite the rule remaining there in black and white. Drop it, chuck it away (with two hands that is, not with one; unless you are a ruckman... but don't try it with one as we saw with toovey...) do whatever the hell you want and the umpires will do nothing. Again... it makes no sense. They are fiddling with interpretation without looking at the reason for the rule.
I don't know. We were stiffed last night but I still can't blame the umpires entirely because they have a joke of a code to deal with.

[stui magpie]

Issue in my books is, these umpires need to be 200k a year to be full time. Some of them like McBurney (apparently) are paid about 150k a year in their normal jobs.

Pay them well, have them full time so they can all get on the same page.

Yes the umpiring can be horrible, but in a professional competition where the sportsmen are paid well and it's massive business, the days of armature umpires is kind of antiquated.

Actually, the main issue isn't professionalism it's the fact that they choose umpires who can bounce the ball rather than making decision making the key selection criteria.

[Deja Vu]

Did any collingwoodfc player get a free for high contact last?

I think our guys need to start ducking for free like everyone else is. Just saw Cyril headbutt someone in the bicep and get a free for high contact

[woftam]

Did any collingwoodfc player get a free for high contact last?

I think our guys need to start ducking for free like everyone else is. Just saw Cyril headbutt someone in the bicep and get a free for high contact

Just did exactly the same thing again halfway through the 3rd quarter. Blatant leading with his head. Got the cheap free & then a 50 because the saints argued. This is the worst week of umpiring I can remember.

[What'sinaname]

Need to get rid of the high contact rule as the unintended consequence is players throwing their head back to draw a free. Go back to playing a free only when the high contact is severe or significantly impedes a player. Most of the time the incidental contact would not have changed the outcome so the Umpire is having too significant of an influence on the game.

[MattyD]

I find it very difficult to watch games where collingwood is not playing. I get so angry because the umpires interpret in a completely different way and find myself saying "If that was a Collingwood player"....

[DT56]

Need to get rid of the high contact rule as the unintended consequence is players throwing their head back to draw a free. Go back to playing a free only when the high contact is severe or significantly impedes a player. Most of the time the incidental contact would not have changed the outcome so the Umpire is having too significant of an influence on the game.

Diitto

[King Monkey]

Need to get rid of the high contact rule as the unintended consequence is players throwing their head back to draw a free. Go back to playing a free only when the high contact is severe or significantly impedes a player. Most of the time the incidental contact would not have changed the outcome so the Umpire is having too significant of an influence on the game.

Yep.

Someone is going to get seriously injured soon, whilst this practice of leading with the head to draw a free kick continues.

I find it very difficult to watch games where collingwood is not playing. I get so angry because the umpires interpret in a completely different way and find myself saying "If that was a Collingwood player"....

And yep!! Overofficiating is killing the game.

[maggies2003]

Did anyone catch the Freo V GC game. Umpire Simon Overland is as corrupt as the former Police Commissioner of Victoria, he gifted Freo the win.

[Jezza]

Charity for the poorer clubs has apparently spread to on-field.......

That was an absolute disgrace last night!!!!!!!!

If anyone thinks the umpires don't cheat - the pr!ck was looking straight at Minson's arm when he threw it, from about 20mtrs away and called "play-on". I couldn't believe my eyes.

The inconsistency was a disgrace last night. In the first quarter, Minson clearly threw the ball, yet the umpires did nothing to penalise him for doing that. On the other hand one of our own admittedly threw it but he got penalised.

What made the umpiring so shit last night, was the fact that the Bulldogs were getting calls going in favour of them, that we weren't getting. The Minson situation is a great example of this. The Picken free kick at the start of the match was a disgrace as well. What was Keefe supposed to do when Picken smashed his head into Keefe's body. What a bloody joke that we have such a thing called umpire appreciation round.

[Greening gold]

I don't normally mention umpires but that was a shocking display. The bouncing all night was abysmal bu that worked against both sides. The judgements on frees or non-frees was outrageous. Dawes was consistently held by the arm in marking contests but not one free called. I hope the club reports this performance back to the AFL.

Dawes was also pushed in the back several times - nothing registered with Sawers' "perceptive fellow". And as for the attempted shirtfront on Trav...

You know you could almost understand Trav wanting to go to GWS or Freo, just because they're not Collingwood so he'd probably get a decent go from the merry whistlers.

[What'sinaname]

Dawes was also pushed in the back several times - nothing registered with Sawers' "perceptive fellow". And as for the attempted shirtfront on Trav...

You know you could almost understand Trav wanting to go to GWS or Freo, just because they're not Collingwood so he'd probably get a decent go from the merry whistlers.

The non free to Trav was unbelievable. Front on contact with the player not turning to look at the footy. A free 99 times out of 100.

[Greening gold]

Dawes was also pushed in the back several times - nothing registered with Sawers' "perceptive fellow". And as for the attempted shirtfront on Trav...

You know you could almost understand Trav wanting to go to GWS or Freo, just because they're not Collingwood so he'd probably get a decent go from the merry whistlers.

The non free to Trav was unbelievable. Front on contact with the player not turning to look at the footy. A free 99 times out of 100.

It also signifies players are not being properly protected. Given the growing number of serious injuries each week, including two broken jaws to the Dees reserves on the weekend, you'd think there might be some consciousness of the need to give the player going for the ball at least the appearance of some protection. Seems to me the only players who get protected are those who play for frees - eg Selwood's sensitive and slippery shoulders.

[think positive]

It was really 21-7 frees in my book. They always try to level it when the game's done. Prior to Harry's goal they paid an unnecessary free (advantage) behind play to Goldsack, and did so in defensive 50 in the dying stages when we already had the ball free, to try to 'square the ledger'. Oh, and count how long Maxwell had to release the ball in the final minutes after a mark...5 freakin' seconds!!! Count it. He marked at 0:50 on the clock, and was called for play-on at the 0:45. WTF?!?

I've watched the game TWICE now. I still get angry at the non-calls to Collingwood. It is seriously cheating, whether sub-conscious or other. We must work twice as hard to win games of footy. We didn't notice it last year so much cos we were smashing teams. No matter what the umpires did, we were too good. Now, a closer contest, and their influence is back on show for all to see.

I agree and also about the frees the cats pick up. Definate favoritism. we ducked for the ball, no call. Bulldogs got to frees for just that. Same last night in the hawks game. Call it or don't. Personally I don't think it should be a free. It's making a dangerous habit more acceptable.

The throw the other night still makes my blood boil. Hubby always tells me off for yelling at the umpires. I told him years a go they will cost some one a final. And they did. His beloved Bulldogs back whenever, lost to someone in WA if I remember rightly, by less than a goal on a shit call. How about the tazzie debacle? the umps should not have an impact on the outcome of a game. It really is blatant cheating.
exactly right . This post was spot on.
I knew the count at 7 and looked at the frees after that and they were all bullshit - that is we already and won the ball the free was not an advantage.

Bloody iPad! My comments came out in the quote! Sorry

[Cam]

Lucky Jolly wasn't playing he is +6 to oppo frees... Anyone see what Minson was doing to Wood.. Jolly does same things = free every time, in fact even when Jolly thinks about doing it the scumpires pay a free.