Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:31 pm
Just an FYI, the girl on snapchat was 15 years old according to this article. The 23 year old is another woman.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/w ... zrz85.html
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:33 pm
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:42 pm
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:47 pm
The Seedsmeister wrote:Just an FYI, the girl on snapchat was 15 years old according to this article. The 23 year old is another woman.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/w ... zrz85.html
That doesn't make sense at all in an industry that prides itself on it's players running kids clinics.A 15-year-old girl was involved in the first incident on social media app SnapChat. Because of her age, police have not ruled out investigating the matter.
It's either BS or the AFL are hypocrites.
Also anyone with a WWCC is mandated to report his involvement with an underage girl.
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:03 pm
KM, Stui, I think we are kindred spirits. If I ever meet you I would like to shout you both a beverage of your choice (within reason 
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)Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:17 pm
We're generally in the Ponsford stand level 1 at a Pies game, the Square leg bar (when it's damn openStupied wrote:KM, Stui, I think we are kindred spirits. If I ever meet you I would like to shout you both a beverage of your choice (within reason
) has a limited but drinkable selection. Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:39 pm
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 1:13 am
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 7:39 am
Of course, that might not mean Bootsma shouldn't have been sacked, just that Williams should have been, too?
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 7:57 am
In a nutshell.King Monkey wrote:Finally, yep, all employers including football clubs are required to treat their employees with respect and dignity.
I couldn't agree with that statement more.
But, David, is that only a one way street?
The AFL and it's clubs rely on dollars from families and sponsors; whether you like it or not.
People with young daughters but not confined to those with young daughters, think Bootsma's behaviour is disgusting; whether you like it or not.
Sponsors like to be seen to be involved with reputable organisations; whether you like it or not.
Carlton need to display an image of good solid values, as do most organisations that rely on people spending money with them to survive.
Bootsma has smashed these values out of the water.
His position is actually untenable when this latest show of disrespect to his employer is added to the others we've been hearing about.
There is no argument that isn't highly comical to suggest otherwise...........
Geez David, a few "moral guardians" are the only people who support him being moved on?? Really?? Get your head out of the sand mate.
This is a guy bringing shame and scorn to his organisation. Grounds for instant dismissal in most industries.
These guys get warned, and educated, and told, and reminded, and cuddled, and re-educated, and explained, and shown, and educated again, and reminded, that what they do can potentially affect the club in ways that they, and obviously you, don't understand.
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That last paragraph says it all though, and bootsma, the bombers and Marley are all at fault.
Whilst I'm really glad to see Marley has turned it around, woken up to himself, whatever, I won't argue with an opposition supporter about wether he should be there, cos I get their point.
Bootsma needs to take it on the chin, try and get his act together for maybe another crack at footy if he wants it. But he will have to earn it.
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 8:18 am
From big footy,
"The media will really enjoy ruining this young kid.
It is the Aussie way, kick the kid when he is down - then be seen to try and help him when he is all but shot to pieces."
Unfortunately this is true, the Aussie media is disgusting. And from what little I've seen of it, the media in general. And there will be no winners, except their pockets. Not Bootsma, not his girlfriend and child, not the family of the kid involved, and not even Carlton.
"The media will really enjoy ruining this young kid.
It is the Aussie way, kick the kid when he is down - then be seen to try and help him when he is all but shot to pieces."
Unfortunately this is true, the Aussie media is disgusting. And from what little I've seen of it, the media in general. And there will be no winners, except their pockets. Not Bootsma, not his girlfriend and child, not the family of the kid involved, and not even Carlton.
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:30 am
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 12:42 pm
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 1:04 pm
S'pose it depends on the club the punishment, and since he has form it's really hard to find any reason to have any compassion. He knew of the teams social media use rules, and clearly was told the last time about it.
If he did indeed send the nudes to the 15 year old like most are saying, how can we really find any compassion for that? Club contacted the AFLPA and such to find out what they could do and then contacted his management and sacked him.
With regards to Williams, different club and incident I am sure Collingwood could have sacked Williams for it but they chose to stick by him while also making him do community service.
If he did indeed send the nudes to the 15 year old like most are saying, how can we really find any compassion for that? Club contacted the AFLPA and such to find out what they could do and then contacted his management and sacked him.
With regards to Williams, different club and incident I am sure Collingwood could have sacked Williams for it but they chose to stick by him while also making him do community service.
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 1:05 pm