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stui magpie wrote:prejudicial my arse. lacking empathy I'll take but the term I prefer is pragmatic.
There's nothing pragmatic about misjudging people's intentions. Of course there may be some who cross borders with no other intention than to find the spot with the best welfare cheques so they can live in luxury off the taxpayer. I find it unlikely, but, you know, it takes all kinds. What I can't abide by is the suggestion that most or all asylum seekers are motivated by this. It shows an enormous lack of ability to imagine yourself in other people's shoes, and a strong vein of prejudice. Pa Marmo's post says it all: to him, these people are greedy, lazy and selfish, and here to take what's ours. It's a caricature, pure and simple.
Presuming malign intent in people we don't know (and scarcely know anything about) is cynical and ungracious. Presuming malign intent in a universalised mass of foreigners, on the other hand, is just racism. The textbook definition thereof, really.
Bullshit. We assume intent based on observable actions all the time, for individuals and groups.
FWIW, You originally said welfare had nothing to do with it, now you conceded it is motivation for some, so we actually agree.
I said it was a pull factor. One, not the only, not the only thing people would consider. Some clearly choose to try to stay in culturally similar countries, that's another pull factor.
To discount welfare as a pull factor because it disagrees with your ideals is the text book definition of stupid.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
And the wide-open, gently-curving boulevards in which to do burn-outs in their renovated 1971 Valiant VH Chargers (the vehicle you really can call home).
stui magpie wrote:No 71 valiants I'm afraid, the VN-VP Commodore is the weapon of choice for the current crop of bogans.
Thomastown and Epping (you might need to google those suburbs) are home to most of the northern bogan, but Heidelberg West has it's own little chic.
Would it disturb you to read that I am (originally) a Northern Suburbs boy, that I know precisely where Epping and Thomastown are, that I recall vividly when the 86 tram-route terminated in Preston and that as a kid my parents used to take the family out to South Morang for a Sunday drive in the country?
Those are just some of a series of very compelling reasons for me living in the City, now.
stui magpie wrote:No 71 valiants I'm afraid, the VN-VP Commodore is the weapon of choice for the current crop of bogans.
Thomastown and Epping (you might need to google those suburbs) are home to most of the northern bogan, but Heidelberg West has it's own little chic.
Would it disturb you to read that I am (originally) a Northern Suburbs boy, that I know precisely where Epping and Thomastown are, that I recall vividly when the 86 tram-route terminated in Preston and that as a kid my parents used to take the family out to South Morang for a Sunday drive in the country?
Those are just some of a series of very compelling reasons for me living in the City, now.
LOL, It wouldn't disturb me in the slightest but does explain a few things.
We should meet up one time at the Thomastown sunday market. You could buy one of the archery sets, perfect for picking off cycling hipsters from your balcony.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
As the time passes by and Australians arrive and depart by the plane load, the injection of cash into the Balinese economy is going OK. The Muslims are trying to take over Bali but the Hindus are fighting back. Tattoo parlours are out of control and WA residents are #1 in having tats no matter what age or gender. Nothing like seeing an Aussie with a Bintang in hand walking down one of the streets who think it's a good look, I guess having a Bintang singlet on helps. Nothing like sitting down the beach and having a beer and enjoying the sun and getting through on less than $20 a day. Had a good day Sunday with all the West Coast supporters, it was hilarious their reactions. Some threatening to kill me even. I wonder what today's adventures will bring?
Culprit wrote:As the time passes by and Australians arrive and depart by the plane load, the injection of cash into the Balinese economy is going OK. The Muslims are trying to take over Bali but the Hindus are fighting back. Tattoo parlours are out of control and WA residents are #1 in having tats no matter what age or gender. Nothing like seeing an Aussie with a Bintang in hand walking down one of the streets who think it's a good look, I guess having a Bintang singlet on helps. Nothing like sitting down the beach and having a beer and enjoying the sun and getting through on less than $20 a day. Had a good day Sunday with all the West Coast supporters, it was hilarious their reactions. Some threatening to kill me even. I wonder what today's adventures will bring?
gees youve Bin-tang there a while, your not in Schapelles old Cell are you??
You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either!
Culprit wrote:As the time passes by and Australians arrive and depart by the plane load, the injection of cash into the Balinese economy is going OK. The Muslims are trying to take over Bali but the Hindus are fighting back. Tattoo parlours are out of control and WA residents are #1 in having tats no matter what age or gender. Nothing like seeing an Aussie with a Bintang in hand walking down one of the streets who think it's a good look, I guess having a Bintang singlet on helps. Nothing like sitting down the beach and having a beer and enjoying the sun and getting through on less than $20 a day. Had a good day Sunday with all the West Coast supporters, it was hilarious their reactions. Some threatening to kill me even. I wonder what today's adventures will bring?
gees youve Bin-tang there a while, your not in Schapelles old Cell are you??
Nothing like seeing Drunken Aussies crash on a scooter. No helmets, only shorts and thongs. All grewesone as my first aid kicked in. Waiting for the ambo I asked one of them if they had travel insurance? No was the reply. I said, you best contact your family to get flown home ASAP or have $20k available as you are severely injured.
