#32 Travis Cloke

[The_Staunton]

Get you Petrie with your fancy ideas like taking marks and kicking goals and doing everything for the team!

There's more to footy than that! Like sulking, whinging, moaning, hiding behind your dad...

[Doc63]

^^

Yep... Some very choice words directed at him from the legends members on level 2 off the ponny on sat...

I've said it 50 times already... Bucks was right, his brand is shot... Each day, more and more Collingwood football club members and supporters are turning on him.

And.... Rightly so. Club first. Players are replaceable... The club is not.

Wasn't that flash from the 3rd level either.

But I agree. His brand is shot. Players come & go, Tuddy, Thommo, McKenna, Moore, Picken, McGuane, all went to other clubs. The Club will live on & we'll keep going to watch.

What I cant understand is, how can these other clubs actually think he is worth the kind of money they are offering?

[Pies4shaw]

Any chance we could avoid calling players who have played 150 games for Collingwood "muppet"?

What ever good work he may have done over those 150 game has been thrown away over the last month. Muppet seems pretty appropriate. Even if he does sign now, he will still be a muppet. Muppet is pretty tame when compared to what he was being called on Saturday afternoon.

No, it hasn't.

Debate is fine but the recent tendency to assume he's "going" and then abuse him for it, without knowing, is rather disappointing.

All that we actually know is that he's played a few poor games. So have a lot of other Collingwood players recently. Some of you seem to be projecting that his poor form must be because he's leaving but I don't think anyone on Nick's knows that (or, if they do, they're being awfully coy about it). If he does re-sign with Collingwood, I hope those of you who have turned so quickly have the decency to go and support a team more suitable to your barracking habits, like, say, the 'Aints.

I don't like the present position, any more than I liked it when Pendlebury, Thomas and Swan were the subjects of speculation. But I do remember that Cloke already turned down one huge offer (from Essendon) in trade week straight after the 2010 GF win. I am very cross that the position hasn't been sorted out, one way or the other. But I'm not going to blame the player for that. And I'm certainly not going to abuse him. And it troubles me that others think it is OK to do so.

[makri]

It will take him another 150 games to earn that respect back, problem is I don't see him being a 300 game player.

[The_Staunton]

Any chance we could avoid calling players who have played 150 games for Collingwood "muppet"?

What ever good work he may have done over those 150 game has been thrown away over the last month. Muppet seems pretty appropriate. Even if he does sign now, he will still be a muppet. Muppet is pretty tame when compared to what he was being called on Saturday afternoon.

No, it hasn't.

Debate is fine but the recent tendency to assume he's "going" and then abuse him for it, without knowing, is rather disappointing.

All that we actually know is that he's played a few poor games. So have a lot of other Collingwood players recently. Some of you seem to be projecting that his poor form must be because he's leaving but I don't think anyone on Nick's knows that (or, if they do, they're being awfully coy about it). If he does re-sign with Collingwood, I hope those of you who have turned so quickly have the decency to go and support a team more suitable to your barracking habits, like, say, the 'Aints.

I don't like the present position, any more than I liked it when Pendlebury, Thomas and Swan were the subjects of speculation. But I do remember that Cloke already turned down one huge offer (from Essendon) in trade week straight after the 2010 GF win. I am very cross that the position hasn't been sorted out, one way or the other. But I'm not going to blame the player for that. And I'm certainly not going to abuse him. And it troubles me that others think it is OK to do so.

It's not the poor from though, respectfully, it's the attitude of him and Damir that's causing the issue...

Not sure any of the aforementioned aired their contract woes on the Footy Show or had "quite" such a father...

[Nash Rising]

It will take him another 150 games to earn that respect back.

No it won't, fickle supporters such as you jump back on (and off) on a weekly basis. After Cloke signs you will simply go after another player that doesn't fit your view of the world.
Luckily for Collingwood and our players, your views are meaningless

[makri]

Nah, I'm tipping I will still be going after Cloke if he signs. He still wont fit in my view of the world.

[rocketronnie]

Rene Kink reckons he's right to go if we give Clokey the arse. No need for Fevola at all.

[AnthonyC]

Some of the crap that has been written here is just incredible.....

were it from people who had a half a brain.


Cloke is a premiership hero of the Collingwood Football Club. I certainly am not happy with his form of late as many here are and no doubt everyone at the Club. I wish he would settle his contract ASAP to get it out of the way but you would think he was guilty of single handedly tearing the Club apart. Get a bloody grip. He is one player out of 22 that take the field each week. It is possible that if he gets this contract out of the way that he might focus more on his play, but possibly not.

I might forgive a lot of you because you are talking like children and maybe that's all you are. Some advice.. Grow Up.

[eddiesmith]

It will take him another 150 games to earn that respect back.

No it won't, fickle supporters such as you jump back on (and off) on a weekly basis. After Cloke signs you will simply go after another player that doesn't fit your view of the world.
Luckily for Collingwood and our players, your views are meaningless

No doubt he will come out, win a big game and then re-sign and all these little sheep will go crawling back into their hole denying they ever turned on him

[Pies4shaw]

It will take him another 150 games to earn that respect back, problem is I don't see him being a 300 game player.

I don't really understand why he has lost your "respect". He shouldn't have gone on the Footy Show and I didn't like that - but that presumably was done on advice from those who look after his contract negotiations.

As for the football, in 2010 he kicked 38 goals, 40 behinds in 24 games. So far this season, he's already kicked 35 goals, 20 behinds in only 16 games. Unless the wheels fall off permanently, he's plainly going to kick more goals than he did in the premiership year. Realistically, he'll probably end up with 45 or 50 goals for the year, if he plays all the remaining games. That's not a great haul when compared with his 69 goals in 2011 but it isn't a bad one, all things considered. After all, he won the Copeland kicking 40 goals in 2008.

[Doc63]

It will take him another 150 games to earn that respect back, problem is I don't see him being a 300 game player.

I don't really understand why he has lost your "respect". He shouldn't have gone on the Footy Show and I didn't like that - but that presumably was done on advice from those who look after his contract negotiations.

As for the football, in 2010 he kicked 38 goals, 40 behinds in 24 games. So far this season, he's already kicked 35 goals, 20 behinds in only 16 games. Unless the wheels fall off permanently, he's plainly going to kick more goals than he did in the premiership year. Realistically, he'll probably end up with 45 or 50 goals for the year, if he plays all the remaining games. That's not a great haul when compared with his 69 goals in 2011 but it isn't a bad one, all things considered. After all, he won the Copeland kicking 40 goals in 2008.

True, but are those figures worth 750K for 5 years? Are they worth more than Swan, Pendles & Beams. The correct answer to both questions is no.

[obleex]

All I know is there is no way Petrie would hold his club to ransom the way trav is at the minute. And please, I am fully aware of Petrie's age and know full well we won't ever sign him. Settle down

[melliot]

It will take him another 150 games to earn that respect back.

No it won't, fickle supporters such as you jump back on (and off) on a weekly basis. After Cloke signs you will simply go after another player that doesn't fit your view of the world.
Luckily for Collingwood and our players, your views are meaningless

No doubt he will come out, win a big game and then re-sign and all these little sheep will go crawling back into their hole denying they ever turned on him

Grew up on beef and sheep farm. Lived most my life in regional Vic. But never ever seen sheep live in a hole or return to one.

Must be NZ ones?

[Pies4shaw]

All I know is there is no way Petrie would hold his club to ransom the way trav is at the minute. And please, I am fully aware of Petrie's age and know full well we won't ever sign him. Settle down

Petrie wouldn't have to. North have about 3 players worth a contract on their entire list. And he isn't going to be offered a million dollars by anyone, is he?

Anyway, do you actually know whether Petrie is presently being paid more than Cloke? I think you might be quite surprised.

Finally, I sense a slight irony in you calling Collingwood's premiership CHF a "muppet" and then asking me to "settle down" when all I did in response to your post was offer my take on your desire for Petrie based upon some statistical material.