Collingwood must request a "please explain Geish"

King Monkey · Post by **King Monkey** » Sun May 06, 2012 10:07 am

Jezza wrote: What a bloody joke that we have such a thing called umpire appreciation round.

Here here.

skaman · Post by **skaman** » Sun May 06, 2012 10:11 am

What'sinaname wrote:Need to get rid of the high contact rule as the unintended consequence is players throwing their head back to draw a free. Go back to playing a free only when the high contact is severe or significantly impedes a player. Most of the time the incidental contact would not have changed the outcome so the Umpire is having too significant of an influence on the game.

Short, concise and to the point. 100% correct!

Magpie Jack · Post by **Magpie Jack** » Sun May 06, 2012 10:15 am

mattys123 wrote:Yep, the Keefe one in the last quarter should be the first one on the DVD we send to the Giesh and his bunch of morons.

Shocker ... This one needs to cleared up officially.

Post by **Pies4shaw** » Sun May 06, 2012 11:06 am

I think that much of the problem for the Collingwood talls on Friday night (Cloke, Dawes and - especially when he was forward - Keeffe) was that they were playing on little kids (except for Lake, who is almlost the size of a normal adult defender).

The umpires probably took the view that if they didn't allow a bit more than the usual holding against Collingwood forwards they would be paying frees to them all night. It was plainly outrageous but I think the general interpretation was "you can hold, punch or otherwise interfere with a big gorilla but you can't do any of that to a little guy" - since Footscray have exactly none of the former, they were advantaged by the interpretation.

I look forward to some Collingwood forwards getting soft inside-50 holding frees of the kind that Steve Johnson and Bartel get most weeks. They are both wonderful footballers but they are held inside 50 far less than either Dawes or Cloke.

The hilarious thing, of course, is that Dawes and Cloke are almost always pinged for holding back. Dawes was so distressed by the umpiring that at one stage (I think it was in the first quarter) he actually pitched his mouthguard about 30 yards away in frustration.

jackcass · Post by **jackcass** » Sun May 06, 2012 11:53 am

Deja Vu wrote:Did any collingwoodfc player get a free for high contact last?

I think our guys need to start ducking for free like everyone else is. Just saw Cyril headbutt someone in the bicep and get a free for high contact

Fasolo got 1. Agree on the saints v hawks. Saints getting the same end of the stick we got.

Really hate this trend toward players ducking and getting frees. Didn't like Heater getting one for doing it, hate it when opposition players do it. As soon as a player contributes to the head high contact it should be "play on".

jackcass · Post by **jackcass** » Sun May 06, 2012 11:57 am

What'sinaname wrote:
Greening gold wrote:
Dawes was also pushed in the back several times - nothing registered with Sawers' "perceptive fellow". And as for the attempted shirtfront on Trav...

You know you could almost understand Trav wanting to go to GWS or Freo, just because they're not Collingwood so he'd probably get a decent go from the merry whistlers.
The non free to Trav was unbelievable. Front on contact with the player not turning to look at the footy. A free 99 times out of 100.

Hargraves actually made contact with the ball in the spoiling motion so no issue with this not being a free. The one not paid to Reid again by Hargraves was definitely a free any day of the week and again resulted in a doggies goal.

Post by **Pies4shaw** » Sun May 06, 2012 12:00 pm

jackcass wrote:
What'sinaname wrote:
Greening gold wrote:
Dawes was also pushed in the back several times - nothing registered with Sawers' "perceptive fellow". And as for the attempted shirtfront on Trav...

You know you could almost understand Trav wanting to go to GWS or Freo, just because they're not Collingwood so he'd probably get a decent go from the merry whistlers.
The non free to Trav was unbelievable. Front on contact with the player not turning to look at the footy. A free 99 times out of 100.
Hargraves actually made contact with the ball in the spoiling motion so no issue with this not being a free. The one not paid to Reid again by Hargraves was definitely a free any day of the week and again resulted in a doggies goal.

He got the ball first but then he got Travis' head from front on. Obvious free. I have no idea what the TV showed but it was very clear from where I was sitting.

thebaldfacts · Post by **thebaldfacts** » Sun May 06, 2012 12:01 pm

Dont know if this has been mentioned, but in the last quarter, after being manhandled for the umpteenth time, Dawes was so frustrated that I am sure he threw out his mouth guard in disgrace for not receiving a free for being manhandled yet again.

It looked like a good 30 metere throw at the offending doogy player rather than just on the ground.

Brenny · Post by **Brenny** » Sun May 06, 2012 12:02 pm

... and for Dawes to crack the shits it would have to be significant. He never doesn't argue or crack it at the umpires. Seldom does he talk back too.

MattyD · Post by **MattyD** » Sun May 06, 2012 12:53 pm

watched the game again last night.
Yep, we are all spot on.
Umpiring a disgrace.
Loved seeing coach get fired up.
And loved seeing Trav swear at an umpire - they bloody deserved it. Trav was pack raped all night and one in particular was there for everyone to see and still no free

Post by **1eyedpie** » Sun May 06, 2012 1:22 pm

jackcass wrote:
Deja Vu wrote:Did any collingwoodfc player get a free for high contact last?

I think our guys need to start ducking for free like everyone else is. Just saw Cyril headbutt someone in the bicep and get a free for high contact
Fasolo got 1. Agree on the saints v hawks. Saints getting the same end of the stick we got.

Really hate this trend toward players ducking and getting frees. Didn't like Heater getting one for doing it, hate it when opposition players do it. As soon as a player contributes to the head high contact it should be "play on".

I'm sure when Fas got the free he said " we have heads too" to the ump!

Greening gold · Post by **Greening gold** » Sun May 06, 2012 2:33 pm

At least we won, in spite of the umpiring.

How do you reckon the Suns are feeling today:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx

Someone should shout Demetriou an alarm clock.

MattyD · Post by **MattyD** » Sun May 06, 2012 4:14 pm

My last word on this:

No.17 umpire - schitt? - should be fired and never allowed to umpire again.

No consistency in umpiring but take a look at who is on the rules committee - stupid is as stupid does

GreekLunatic · Post by **GreekLunatic** » Sun May 06, 2012 4:25 pm

whats happend to razor ray i would have razor raY instead of justin schitt.

woftam · Post by **woftam** » Sun May 06, 2012 7:46 pm

The free kick ladder - Frees for left & against right - No surprise where we sit or where the Eagles sit.

1 West Coast Eagles 157 97
2 Port Adelaide Power 142 116
3 Essendon Bombers 123 107
4 North Melbourne 123 107
5 GWS Giants 123 111
6 Richmond Tigers 122 119
7 Sydney Swans 119 110
8 St Kilda Saints 118 122
9 Brisbane Lions 117 118
10 Hawthorn Hawks 115 128
11 Geelong Cats 112 134
12 Fremantle Dockers 109 109
13 Melbourne Demons 109 127
14 Western Bulldogs 108 111
15 Carlton Blues 98 103
16 Gold Coast Suns 95 116
17 Adelaide Crows 94 117
18 Collingwood Magpies 92 110

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Collingwood must request a "please explain Geish"