Climate change

[Skids]

I believe more renewable energy = less pollution from burning carbon - good thing

More trees less concrete is also good.

Of course, these things make perfect sense, along with population control. The planet can not sustain more and more people.

I just wish they'd stop wasting money on the climate change bullshit and concentrate more on these important things.

[HAL]

I hope that your dreams come true.

[Pies4shaw]

I wonder what percentage of ring wingers dismiss global warming but believe in God?

Some things must be taken on trust - but on the other hand, you don't have to believe everything you hear. It's a sort of "calculus of stupidity".

[stui magpie]

I wonder what percentage of ring wingers dismiss global warming but believe in God?

So you're implying there's an element of faith in each?

[Pies4shaw]

I think, perhaps Swoop42 was juxtaposing the ease with which some people believe in omnipotent fairies with the extreme difficulty some of the same people seem to have accepting that their butts are on fire.

[stui magpie]

That's one take, another is how people are willing to believe anything that suits their personal ideology.

Is their a large difference in faith in omnipotent fairies and faith in science that they don't have the training to understand?

[npalm]

I don't believe the hysterical apocalyptic predictions from the more extreme green lobby. The science behind increased CO2 in the atmosphere is fairly settled, a few decades back it was called the Greenhouse effect.

Unfortunately we then went to threats about the Ozone layer, global warming and then climate change as the prediction models proved increasingly inaccurate and the average person noticed F all difference in the climate.

I agree it's not the predictions of the extreme green lobby that we should listen to. Rather, its the likes of the national science academies of Aus, USA, Great Britain etc etc that we should pay attention to.

And a quick check of their websites indicates that they are consistently stating that climate change is occurring as a result of the greenhouse effect.

You and I as individuals may not notice the difference in the climate, but the science bodies are telling us that the potential resultant changes in water temperature and acidity can have enormous impacts on ecosystems like the Great Barrier Reef.

[stui magpie]

^

See my earlier post. I was snorkelling up there last month.

Cyclones cause serious damage. I saw some bleached coral and some new coral.

[npalm]

And it's not a matter of 'faith' in science. It's a matter of respect.
I don't have any respect for omnipotent fairies but I do for science.

Science is not infallible. But it doesn't pretend to be. In fact, that's the great thing about good science..... it questions and challenges itself continuously.

[Skids]

And the 31000 scientists in the USA that dispute the climate change lie?.... the ones that don't accept the billions of dollars to play along with the charade.... what of them?

You choose to believe the paid off brigade, some of us don't and that promptly earns us a label??

Ahhh, the hypocrisy

[stui magpie]

In principle I absolutely agree, Npalm.

But, if you don't understand the science so you just put your faith in the scientists who say stuff you agree with, is that really that different from not understanding how your religion works and just putting your faith in your priest ? (of whatever persuasion)

[David]

I don't understand rocket science, but that doesn't mean I'm particularly sceptical about its legitimacy. Is that an irrational position to take? Or does it make sense to appeal to authority sometimes?

[stui magpie]

Does rocket science have a history of making predictions that don't come true?

[npalm]

^ Nuh, don't reckon its the same thing at all.

I'm not capable of understanding the science. I don't have the training and I no longer have the brain cells. (If I ever did). But I think science has enough runs on the board to be treated with respect.
(again respect not faith).

If science says that we are possibly on the brink of an ecological disaster but we may have the ability to prevent it then we'd be fking stupid not to play it safe and act on their advice.

[npalm]

Does rocket science have a history of making predictions that don't come true?

Every time the rockets hit their target the scientists' predictions are true. Every time they miss they're false.