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^

Cheers for that.

I'd maintain that they would appear entirely unsuited to these kind of cases but if that's the only option........
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Further on the Higgins case, a reminder that the issue here is much bigger than just the Morrison Muppets (etc.):

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-24/ ... e/13188336
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^ Disgraced and discredited bully ex-MP says bad things about her former colleagues. Golly gosh!

(What she says may or may not be right. I have no evidence on that and no opinion. But as a credible source she ranks above Craig Kelly and below most other people.)
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Tannin wrote:^ Disgraced and discredited bully ex-MP says bad things about her former colleagues. Golly gosh!

(What she says may or may not be right. I have no evidence on that and no opinion. But as a credible source she ranks above Craig Kelly and below most other people.)
Louise Milligan an investigative reporter for 4 corners was noted on the 7:30 report the other day (alluded to by another person) saying it happens across the political divide but with the qualifier it is much more rampant amongst the Liberal / National Party. Go figure.
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More like a fiction writer if she says it's rampant amongst the ALP and more rampant amongst the coalition.

I suppose though she may just not know what rampant means.
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" Prime Minister has just quoted me in parliament to prove Labor also has issues re toxic behaviour. True, but of dozens & dozens of calls we made to staff & politicians from all sides, vast majority of allegations, volunteered, not sought, were about Liberal & Nationals. #auspol"

Tweet from Louise Milligan about 2 days ago
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I wasn't disputing which party is doing it or doing it more than others.

I was saying that it isn't rampant. Even if the "allegations" are true.
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Milligan says she made dozens and dozens of calls to people and those people, without being asked, volunteered information.

Milligan: Hello, I am Louise Milligan, investigative reporter. I do tweets and stuff.

Cold called person: Liberals and Nationals have issues re toxic behaviour.

Milligan: Thank you, good bye.
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David wrote:Further on the Higgins case, a reminder that the issue here is much bigger than just the Morrison Muppets (etc.):

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-24/ ... e/13188336
I actually wondered whether the two issues were even comparable and what the former MP was doing raising her experience, in this particular context.
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We have a state government in Victoria who likes to live by the ALP quota system, yet it's female ministers who they are first to throw under a bus when things go wrong.

Or when a female minister gets abused and threatened by Dan's union mates, Dan stands by his union mates and gets rid of the minister.
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What has that got to do with a liberal party staffer being allegedly raped by another liberal party staffer in federal parliament?Answer:absolutely nothing.
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What is the hissy fit with Dutton using the term "He said-She said" ?

I just saw someone being interviewed getting all wound up over it and saying that it's a term only used in sexual assault cases and is wrong in all sorts of ways, and I saw some other dingbat saying it assumes women can lie about being raped.

How many wrongs in so few words?

"He said-she said" is and has been used extensively as a simple descriptor of any situation where you have one persons word against the others with no witnesses or other evidence available. It is not exclusive to sexual assault cases.
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^ Try saying "He said-he said" and the problem is evident. I don't really care, but it's plainly gendered.
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The wording may be gendered but the common usage isn't.
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doriswilgus wrote:What has that got to do with a liberal party staffer being allegedly raped by another liberal party staffer in federal parliament?Answer:absolutely nothing.
A lot, because some talk up how the ALP quota system is why there is less of this than in the LNP.
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