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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:21 pm
by Dr.Rock
How about Trav having a break this week, play a smaller forward line.
Now that send an interesting message !
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:23 pm
by Trezegol
Dave The Man wrote:Beast wrote:According to Brian Taylor the deal is far from done and in fact both parties are further apart than they ever been. He said that today on 3aw.
I stopped caring whether he signs or not long time ago but this is getting beyond ridiculous now. Massive disruption to our tilt at the flag.
IF that is True than he is Gone
Is this ground hog day or something? BT said the same thing 2 weeks ago. Nothing has changed. Its upto the club now. They need to make a choice between Cloke or Reid. It cant be both.
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:23 pm
by rocketronnie
annewilo wrote:
You don't have a great deal of respect for your fellow posters, some more than others are well informed. Brian like many of the posters is fairly well connected to the club, so he is hardly likely to put something up that is a lie at minimum.
My source was pretty accurate 4 days after the Monday talks and when the club had asked for a decision that they were again poles apart by the Friday. He told me that later that night. This time that same source has said its up in the air, so read what you will of that.
And the same source said it's now in the head of Cloke, which could mean anything!!!!!!!!!!
My gut feeling knowing a little about how the Clokes minds work from years of observation, David is being blinkered. Travs Carlton comments were either deliberate to scare Collingwood or stupid, or accurate because he is really considering a move.
Only time will tell us. Obvious statement.
And RR as passionate as you are, you perhaps should open up your mind to other people at times. You love Cloke obviously, we can see that, but having seen my heart throb Peter McKenna need to move to Carlton because my club saw fit to let this happen, nothing in life is a SHAW thing. In our modern era moreso than the 70's, money talks. Travis says he wants market rate. We can't give him this, so he wants more years, Collingwood don't think he is worth this.
You know that feeling when you've worked really hard in particular one year and come salary review time you think you're a shoe in for 5%. But the boss comes back and says 2.34%. You go WHAT?? You are gutted. You question your worth. Your ego runs wild. Sometimes though, there just are immovable forces that cause a reaction (cause and affect). This too shall pass and even I hope he will stay and I don't rate him much. But I also don't want to see what this will mean by losing him either.
Clokes both senior and junior should have done what they said they were going to and not discuss this during the season. Then they got shitty coz the club were dragging their feet. Seriously, in corporate world they would fail. But this is football, packed with emotion, some of which some of us saw on Sunday morning after our loss, pretty ugly.
Cloke however is not the end nor the beginning of our world. If he does go to Carlton, good luck to him but he will never be a household name, nor have any particular monetary cudos once he runs out of this cash in some dodgy share deal his manager got on to.
Anne, Cloke will do what he will do one way or the other and I will have some emotions and things to share when that happens. However, I'm not interested in rumour, innuendo, aspersion or downright abuse and the lemming like posts that it sometimes starts. There is way too much of that in this thread. I respect most posters opinions but its all been said over and over and over. Its just time people took a chill pill and tried to relax, is all.
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:23 pm
by ClokingDevice
I haven't been worried until now but it's starting to look ugly
From Tuddy and Thommo to Malthouse and Cloke..
Forget Carlton, we are our own worst enemy
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:28 pm
by Trezegol
ClokingDevice wrote:I haven't been worried until now but it's starting to look ugly
From Tuddy and Thommo to Malthouse and Cloke..
Forget Carlton, we are our worst enemies
That's a bullshit statement. Smacks of ignorance.
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:30 pm
by rocketronnie
Dave The Man wrote:Beast wrote:According to Brian Taylor the deal is far from done and in fact both parties are further apart than they ever been. He said that today on 3aw.
I stopped caring whether he signs or not long time ago but this is getting beyond ridiculous now. Massive disruption to our tilt at the flag.
IF that is True than he is Gone
And if it ain't he stays lol
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:32 pm
by jack_spain
4everpies wrote:^VFL team has another bye this weekend. So if Cloke is dropped it will seem like he is rested against GWS.
What a joke that is!
Fair dinkum since we entered our reserves in the VFL we've done nothing but damage our brand at that level and we don't even get every week to try out developing players. The VFL is a JOKE!
Cloke is the Joker!
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:36 pm
by Dave The Man
ClokingDevice wrote:I haven't been worried until now but it's starting to look ugly
From Tuddy and Thommo to Malthouse and Cloke..
Forget Carlton, we are our worst enemies
The Manger he Hired Carr has Ties with the Scum
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:42 pm
by woftam
jack_spain wrote:4everpies wrote:^VFL team has another bye this weekend. So if Cloke is dropped it will seem like he is rested against GWS.
What a joke that is!
Fair dinkum since we entered our reserves in the VFL we've done nothing but damage our brand at that level and we don't even get every week to try out developing players. The VFL is a JOKE!
Cloke is the Joker!
Unfortunately Jack the Foxtel cup has screwed with the draw.
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:43 pm
by burnsy17
Soooo......... Is he still on our list?
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:46 pm
by John Wren
woftam wrote:jack_spain wrote:4everpies wrote:^VFL team has another bye this weekend. So if Cloke is dropped it will seem like he is rested against GWS.
What a joke that is!
Fair dinkum since we entered our reserves in the VFL we've done nothing but damage our brand at that level and we don't even get every week to try out developing players. The VFL is a JOKE!
Cloke is the Joker!
Unfortunately Jack the Foxtel cup has screwed with the draw.
money does strange things to people.
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:49 pm
by woftam
If he signs great, but if he is going to go elsewhere we wont know about it until our year is over. Seems like a guy with the weight of the world on his shoulders right now.
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:53 pm
by 5150
woftam wrote:If he signs great, but if he is going to go elsewhere we wont know about it until our year is over. Seems like a guy with the weight of the world on his shoulders right now.
Yep, David Cloke will do that to you.
Re: Hmmmmmm
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:53 pm
by Banksy
Hiss wrote:He had signed then he didn't sign. Big drama's from what I am now hearing from my sources. I will be surprised if he stays now. Anyway, from his recent efforts I fail to see how he is good value for money. I like him as a player and a bloke. But fair suck of the sauce bottle. Not worth what he is asking.
What a pisser...a few weeks back you were bloating to everyone on Nicks how your sources had informed you that Cloke had signed and then you go and post this tripe, you fraud.
Shove your sources up your ass.
Re: Hmmmmmm
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:56 pm
by woftam
Banksy wrote:Hiss wrote:He had signed then he didn't sign. Big drama's from what I am now hearing from my sources. I will be surprised if he stays now. Anyway, from his recent efforts I fail to see how he is good value for money. I like him as a player and a bloke. But fair suck of the sauce bottle. Not worth what he is asking.
What a pisser...a few weeks back you were bloating to everyone on Nicks how your sources had informed you that Cloke had signed and then you go and post this tripe, you fraud.
Shove your sources up your ass.
Don't worry most of us knew he was full of it.
