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Trade Week Preview - Johnson#26

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 8:21 pm
by Joel
Trade Week Preview - Johnson#26

http://nick.magpies.net/article/artcle. ... 1093965515

Untouchables:

-Nathan Buckley
-Scott Burns
-Chris Tarrant
-Anthony Rocca
-Paul Licuria
-Josh Fraser
-James Clement

The untouchables list in one in which all players will not leave the club. Skipper Buckley and hard nut Burns are considered too old and valuable to be traded. Although some may attract some interest from certain clubs, both are sure to stay at the club.
Click the link to read the whole article. Cheers J26.

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 9:40 pm
by BBHS
Alan Didak is untouchable. So are Richard Cole and Ben Johnson

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 11:05 pm
by Cam
Ben Johnson isn't.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:53 am
by Johnson#26
Dids, Cole and Jonno aren't untouchable, as they aren't in our best players on talent. The untouchables are guys like Bucks, Burns, Taz and Pebbs. Dids, Cole and Jonno are all very good, and I hope that they can elevate them to the untouchables lift.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 8:16 am
by Nath
Its unfortunate, but I probably agree with Cam. A hell of a lot of clubs will have an interest in Ben and in order to get quality to the club, you have to give quality. Johnno is 24 and 100 game player now, he's ripe for trade. Ridiculous but true.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 8:55 am
by Cannibal
Forget the concept of "untouchable" completely. For the right person, the right trade, Collingwood will consider anyone as tradeable, even Bucks and Burns. Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating that they would be traded, just that the club should consider it if approached.

The only reason the Stevens/Didak trade didn't go through last year (correctly, in my opinion) was that MM considered Dids a better long term prospect than Stevens, and that is how any trade should be looked at - is it beneficial for the club?

Having said that, I don't like trading players away at all. I'd far rather the club developed kids and that they played out their careers with us. If someone wants to leave, however, then we probably have no choice but to let them go and get the best deal possible.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 10:54 am
by stik35
Cannibal wrote:The only reason the Stevens/Didak trade didn't go through last year (correctly, in my opinion) was that MM considered Dids a better long term prospect than Stevens, and that is how any trade should be looked at - is it beneficial for the club?
Both Malthouse and Balme have stated that Didak did not want to go.
To trade him against his will would have sent the wrong message to the playing group.

I think this also played a part.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 11:13 am
by BBHS
I think the club showed how untouchable didak is last year.

On talent alone he is the most untouchable player at the club, that does not mean he will realise that talent fully.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 11:42 am
by Nath
Guys like Alan Didak can win you a flag, thats the truth and many will see it as hard to swallow, but he can turn a game on its head in 5 minutes, players like Nick Stevens who are classy by foot and accumulate the ball, but rarely sting an opposition on the scoreboard are available every year. The reason that Judd is being heralded by everyone is pace, class and the ability to kick goals and turn a game, such as the Brisbane game last year when he kicked 5 in the first half. Nick Stevens can't do that to you, Alan Didak can.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 11:47 am
by BBHS
nicks stevens was the biggest waste of time. we had a chance for Nathan brown and waited cause they wanted to use that cap space on stevens.
And we got nothin because of it.
Nathan brown is the developed version of Didak.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 11:54 am
by Cam
That is a very good way of looking at Dids BBHS. Like that.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:58 pm
by Cannibal
I agree, too. Nathan Brown looked sealed and delivered - he even said so himself - and then some dickhead at the club decided to go for Stevens instead and left Brown sitting like a shag on a rock. Late last season, I was salivating at the prospect of adding Brown to our forward line. He is one of the very, very few players I would bend my no-trade preference for because he is a supremely talented goal scorer who showed the talent to hold up FF although far too short for the role. The decision ranks on a par with overlooking drafting Pavlich to trade for McKee.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:53 pm
by Johnson#26
Nath wrote:Its unfortunate, but I probably agree with Cam. A hell of a lot of clubs will have an interest in Ben and in order to get quality to the club, you have to give quality. Johnno is 24 and 100 game player now, he's ripe for trade. Ridiculous but true.
Jonno is Collingwood through and through and will finish top 3 in the Copeland. He will be chased, but I can't see him leaving.