if we make the 8

ed healey · Post by **ed healey** » Mon Jun 25, 2001 1:13 pm

It looks likely that stkilda,wet toast and freo may all win less than 5 games and thus make the next draft a real raffle for the other clubs.
I think that would mean that the team finishing 13th would get pick 10 and we wouldnt get a pick until at least 16 or higher.
This means the best available will go elsewhere and we have some young blokes on our list that may have to be traded to get one of those early picks.
Do you think that some of our talented kids will be given up at the end of the year to get a low pick or will we stick with the list we have for this year at least?

Shaun · Post by **Shaun** » Mon Jun 25, 2001 1:26 pm

Hey, as long as we get Pick #34 (ie: The Abba and Porn Star Pick), i'll be happy

The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.
-General George S. Patton-

Joel · Post by **Joel** » Mon Jun 25, 2001 2:04 pm

Maybe the other teams will AGAIN be incompetent and miss out on some quality young players ie. Lonie!!

JDF

AlfAndrews · Post by **AlfAndrews** » Mon Jun 25, 2001 4:00 pm

So what are you suggesting, Ed? Should we start throwing games now so we can get better draft picks?

I guess the price of success is that you don't get the best draft picks. Don't forget. The price of Josh Fraser was a wooden spoon.

Seriously, I'd rather stick with the talent we've got. Only trade the proven duds or players with serious injury problems. It's better to work with the talent you know you've got, especially young talent, rather than gamble on unknowns.

**floreat pica**

Black_White · Post by **Black_White** » Mon Jun 25, 2001 4:05 pm

Don't you mean "WHEN" we make the 8?

-Craig

The Phoenix Is Arising

Hiya-and-Higher · Post by **Hiya-and-Higher** » Mon Jun 25, 2001 5:02 pm

I think it is true to say that we don't need any new 'draft' players for the next couple of years. Just have the guys we have bond together to play better and better. However what we could do is trade our draft picks to get any rising young star who is unable to break into another club to come across because some old guys are keeping them out (eg Port has 4 *good* ruckmen...if they are all fit, the youngest doesn't get a game)...but make sure they are young tough and fast

London Dave · Post by **London Dave** » Mon Jun 25, 2001 6:37 pm

Good point Ed. There will still be plenty of good players youd reckon. History tells us lots of top players went in the 30's, 40's and beyond. Its what they pay Judkins and his crew to do. MM seems to have spent a year assessing wot we have, and has recruited to fill the holes. Cant see that kind of method going out the door.

In once sense we were 'lucky' to spoon the year Fraser was due up. The guy will be top notch for ages (and hopefully with the pies all the way).

Richo_Rules · Post by **Richo_Rules** » Tue Jun 26, 2001 4:40 am

What would u rather....a spot in the finals or draft picks....i would prefer a spot in the finals. First we either drop or trade:Ukovic,Lane,Dimattina,Wasley,Baynes and Roach. Perhaps even Burns. Then we continue where we left of last year with more great recruiting. Noel Judkins we salute you.

Cos theres one day in September,
We want to remember,
There isn't any doubting,
we'll be in there shouting!

CQ · Post by CQ » Tue Jun 26, 2001 5:44 am

well the whole idea of the game is being to be good enough to get in the finals, which we are pretty close to doing now, therefore so what if we get shit draft picks, we got in the finals and that what matters (this is if we get in of course). the worst place to end up in would be 9th, (though maybe richmond have a permanent reserve on this place) but you get pissed off cos its a matter of so close but still so far away, AND u get shit draft picks.
what about essendon? when was the last time they didnt make the 8? and look how strong their side is.

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junkboy75 · Post by **junkboy75** » Tue Jun 26, 2001 6:29 am

CQ · Post by CQ » Tue Jun 26, 2001 6:44 am

lol, i remember when we got molloy, holland, clement, etc u should have seen the whinge everyone had when we got them, but now that they've seen what they can do everyone has woken up to themselves and realise collingwood can actually draft some decent players.

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Broadie · Post by **Broadie** » Wed Jun 27, 2001 2:36 am

Someone please clarify this:

I thought the veteran's list was based on years played / games played, not on chronological age (ie: turning 30).

Anyone help here?

Broadie

junkboy75 · Post by **junkboy75** » Wed Jun 27, 2001 3:00 am

oops...minor mistake on my part. I've just checked the veterans list rules and they are "aged 30 or older, with 10 or more years of continuous service".

so richo (debut 1991) will definitely qualify next year, but bucks (debut 1994 with the pies) will not qualify until 2004, as I presume it's continuous service with the same club.

"everyone's a winner hot pies"

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if we make the 8

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