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Sure he is a better option than Varcoe?? Surely???Coxy83 wrote:Melbourne believe he is valuable due to him being the number one pick. I'm just not sure what need he fills in our side?
He's tallish but not at all physical. Has nice skills but doesn't get much of the ball and I assume he's on good money?
Pass for me
Would depend on the relative cost. I'd rather chance the draft than pick up either.Lazza wrote:Sure he is a better option than Varcoe?? Surely???Coxy83 wrote:Melbourne believe he is valuable due to him being the number one pick. I'm just not sure what need he fills in our side?
He's tallish but not at all physical. Has nice skills but doesn't get much of the ball and I assume he's on good money?
Pass for me
Is there anyone here who believes that Varcoe is a better option for Collingwood than Watts?
i'd like to see him in the black and white running off half back, breaking the lines and carrying the ball into the forward line. i think he and a few others are victims of a poor development system. i can't recall if it was a general consensus that watts was the top pick that year.swoop42 wrote:Watts has played his entire career at a lowly club with rubbish development.
Watts, Scully, Trengove, Morton, Toumpas to name just a few haven't lived up to there high draft selection.
It can't just be a coincidence.
It's either poor talent identification and/or a poor development system.
If it was a straight swap for Lumumba you'd take him but Melbourne probably believe that because he was a former No.1 pick he's worth more. They'd be wrong.
Watts doesn't run though, he kinda bounces and drifts like a beach ball in the wind.John Wren wrote:i'd like to see him in the black and white running off half back, breaking the lines and carrying the ball into the forward line. i think he and a few others are victims of a poor development system. i can't recall if it was a general consensus that watts was the top pick that year.swoop42 wrote:Watts has played his entire career at a lowly club with rubbish development.
Watts, Scully, Trengove, Morton, Toumpas to name just a few haven't lived up to there high draft selection.
It can't just be a coincidence.
It's either poor talent identification and/or a poor development system.
If it was a straight swap for Lumumba you'd take him but Melbourne probably believe that because he was a former No.1 pick he's worth more. They'd be wrong.
As it is NicNat is vastly overrated compared to his output.John Wren wrote:in answering my question, i forgot it was he vs nicnat for number 1. excluding watts, the top 10 that year haven't disappointed. that's no coincidence. that suggests the melbourne system is crap and they would have likely stiffed up nicnat if he'd had gone there.
certainly stands off it a bit but has got better since roos came along. very much looked like someone who didn't have the coaching for what to do, where to run etc.Domesticated_Ape wrote:Watts doesn't run though, he kinda bounces and drifts like a beach ball in the wind.John Wren wrote:i'd like to see him in the black and white running off half back, breaking the lines and carrying the ball into the forward line. i think he and a few others are victims of a poor development system. i can't recall if it was a general consensus that watts was the top pick that year.swoop42 wrote:Watts has played his entire career at a lowly club with rubbish development.
Watts, Scully, Trengove, Morton, Toumpas to name just a few haven't lived up to there high draft selection.
It can't just be a coincidence.
It's either poor talent identification and/or a poor development system.
If it was a straight swap for Lumumba you'd take him but Melbourne probably believe that because he was a former No.1 pick he's worth more. They'd be wrong.
Back in his draft year, Nic Nat was all the rage. Then Daniel Rich bobbed up and was a chance for number 1, then he fell out of favour and Melbourne went with Watts over Natanui. Jack was seen as the best tall forward all through his draft year, I think. Here's the list - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_AFL_draft
Sidebottom stands up against any of the other first rounders I reckon. Maybe just behind Hartlett. And yeah, Melbourne couldn't develop a negative in a dark room. Getting drafted there is like a death sentence.