Climate change

[Skids]

As we enter the 3rd month of what was supposed to be "an above average cyclone season", we're still yet to see one cross the coast.

When is the sea level going to rise like it was suposed to and why are there more polar bears than ever before?

Coz it's a crock! That's why!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/colu ... ation.html

There are three threads in particular in the leaked documents which have sent a shock wave through informed observers across the world. Perhaps the most obvious, as lucidly put together by Willis Eschenbach (see McIntyre's blog Climate Audit and Anthony Watt's blog Watts Up With That ), is the highly disturbing series of emails which show how Dr Jones and his colleagues have for years been discussing the devious tactics whereby they could avoid releasing their data to outsiders under freedom of information laws.

They have come up with every possible excuse for concealing the background data on which their findings and temperature records were based.

[npalm]

So, when it comes to climate change, you would rather listen to a Murdoch 'journalist' than the major national science academies of the world?

[Pies4shaw]

^^^ Well, it's obviously a lot easier to accept that there is a dishonest conspiracy of hundreds of thousands of the world's leading scientists than that a journalist might be pushing a barrow.

[Skids]

[Culprit]

Have a look at the F Wits in the Liberal Party pushing their bull about how it's all a beat up and a scam. The same people believe the Bible is fact. Give me a break.

I would rather the climate change predictors be wrong than the climate change skeptics. One side has to be wrong.

[HAL]

I a not kidding.

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[What'sinaname]

I'm buying big parcels of land inland in the expectation it will be coastal in 50 years.

[watt price tully]

As we enter the 3rd month of what was supposed to be "an above average cyclone season", we're still yet to see one cross the coast.

When is the sea level going to rise like it was suposed to and why are there more polar bears than ever before?

Coz it's a crock! That's why!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/colu ... ation.html

There are three threads in particular in the leaked documents which have sent a shock wave through informed observers across the world. Perhaps the most obvious, as lucidly put together by Willis Eschenbach (see McIntyre's blog Climate Audit and Anthony Watt's blog Watts Up With That ), is the highly disturbing series of emails which show how Dr Jones and his colleagues have for years been discussing the devious tactics whereby they could avoid releasing their data to outsiders under freedom of information laws.

They have come up with every possible excuse for concealing the background data on which their findings and temperature records were based.

This is Skids reference (from wiki):

Christopher John Penrice Booker (born 7 October 1937) is an English journalist and author. In 1961, he was one of the founders of the magazine Private Eye, and has contributed to it since then. He has been a columnist for The Sunday Telegraph since 1990.[1] Despite having no medical or scientific qualifications he has taken a stance which runs counter to the scientific consensus on a number of issues, including global warming, the link between passive smoking and cancer,[2] and the dangers posed by asbestos.[3] In 2009, he published The Real Global Warming Disaster. In 2005, with Richard North, he published The Great Deception, an analysis of beginnings and growth of the European Union which has been regularly updated. In addition there are related books The Castle of Lies' (1997)[4] which look at both European and British bureaucracy.[5][6] The UK Family Courts and the Social Services often feature in his Sunday Telegraph section.[7]



I think John Maynard Keynes is relevant here

"It is better to keep quiet and seem ignorant," ...."than to speak up and remove all doubt."

Next....

[watt price tully]

Have a look at the F Wits in the Liberal Party pushing their bull about how it's all a beat up and a scam. The same people believe the Bible is fact. Give me a break.

I would rather the climate change predictors be wrong than the climate change skeptics. One side has to be wrong.

I loved the NZ MP calling Malcolm Roberts of coal industry fame & Hanson's one notion party "the Vilage idiot" recently

[Mugwump]

Anyone who has been alive for 55 years, as I have, knows from experience that the climate is changing/warming. When you can personally observe an effect, and there is a reasonable theory as to the causes of that effect involving an empirically-testable process, and it is supported by the great majority of respectable scientific opinion, and the consequences are potentially catastrophic, it is best to take it seriously and take action.

[stui magpie]

^

You haven't lived in Aus for how long?

[Mugwump]

^

You haven't lived in Aus for how long?

Left in 1998, so 18 years. Visit regularly, usually for several weeks in August, where it seems to me that the nights below zero are noticeably fewer than they were in 1996-98. In any event, the Australian BOM record data is clear, as is the effect on coral in the Barrier Reef.

It is certainly clearly observable in Northern Europe. I've lived in the Uk, NL or Germany from 1991-94, then 1998-2017 (Australia in the 1994-1998 period). The change in the severity of winters here in that time is striking, visible in the timing of daffodil and crocus, the days of snow cover, and the average winter day temperature.

[David]

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