Vegan "Terrorists"

[stui magpie]

[Pies4shaw]

No, Stui, they're not "terrorists" and it isn't "entirely appropriate in the circumstances".

They're probably misguided idiots but they aren't terrorists in any useful sense of that word.

[stui magpie]

Couple more links.

39 arrested. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-08/ ... s/10980056.

Geez I hope they get more than a slap on the wrist.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-08/ ... t/10979204

Protesting the aquarium and scaring farm animals while yelling at the farmer that he should grow vegetables.

[stui magpie]

No, Stui, they're not "terrorists" and it isn't "entirely appropriate in the circumstances".

They're probably misguided idiots but they aren't terrorists in any useful sense of that word.

I said, "not entirely inappropriate in the circumstances". Subtle difference.

I didn't label them as such, the term is being freely used, hence my use of inverted commas.

[David]

[Pies4shaw]

Yes, Stui - I apologise. I didn't mean to misquote you. So I guess we're left with the slightly clumsy No, they're not "terrorists" and it isn't "not entirely inappropriate in the circumstances."

[Morrigu]

Hey Stui I had to take an ADO

No I didn't - I don't agree with the way that they went about it all and I agree they are causing more damage than good that's for sure!!

I don't eat meat that's my choice for my own reasons - my husband does still occasionally but he has to cook it himself if he wants it - I can't handle or cook it - I just can't!

I'd love to be vegan, again for my own reasons, but it is not easy and I'm not that good of a cook to be able to improvise and have it still taste good - still I will keep trying because I want to - again just for my own reasons.

We need to focus on improving practices to ensure that cruelty is outlawed and if discovered severely punished - thinking that all animal slaughter will cease is totally unrealistic but we can certainly make it as humane as possible.

Live export makes me sick to my stomach - I'd happily join (and have ) a protest to stop this barbaric practice.

I don't like zoos as I don't believe they are "conserving" a species for any other reason than to have captive bred animals to show in their zoos which makes them money!! None of these animals especially the money spinners lions, rhino, elephant etc etc are ever returned to the wild. If humans want to "see" these animals then they should make more effort to conserve their habitats!!

As they say " you catch more bees with honey" - this lot are over the top even for me and will just alienate people and make them dig in and refuse to consider reasonable and humane measures which should be implemented or behavioural changes as they are being dictated to which is extremely unfortunate

PS I knew you would post this

[stui magpie]

[stui magpie]

Hey Stui I had to take an ADO

No I didn't - I don't agree with the way that they went about it all and I agree they are causing more damage than good that's for sure!!

I don't eat meat that's my choice for my own reasons - my husband does still occasionally but he has to cook it himself if he wants it - I can't handle or cook it - I just can't!

I'd love to be vegan, again for my own reasons, but it is not easy and I'm not that good of a cook to be able to improvise and have it still taste good - still I will keep trying because I want to - again just for my own reasons.

We need to focus on improving practices to ensure that cruelty is outlawed and if discovered severely punished - thinking that all animal slaughter will cease is totally unrealistic but we can certainly make it as humane as possible.

Live export makes me sick to my stomach - I'd happily join (and have ) a protest to stop this barbaric practice.

I don't like zoos as I don't believe they are "conserving" a species for any other reason than to have captive bred animals to show in their zoos which makes them money!! None of these animals especially the money spinners lions, rhino, elephant etc etc are ever returned to the wild. If humans want to "see" these animals then they should make more effort to conserve their habitats!!

As they say " you catch more bees with honey" - this lot are over the top even for me and will just alienate people and make them dig in and refuse to consider reasonable and humane measures which should be implemented or behavioural changes as they are being dictated to which is extremely unfortunate

PS I knew you would post this

I am nothing if not predictable I guess.

I know how you feel, and well said. I see your point about Zoo's and while some/several would fall into that category, I don't think all do. While the ideal would be to have endangered animals remain in the wild, sometimes that's not practical. Plus, if people get an appreciation of these animals by seeing them at a zoo and then want to help protect them in the wild, that's gotta be a good thing, so there's an educative element as well.

[stui magpie]

Yes, Stui - I apologise. I didn't mean to misquote you. So I guess we're left with the slightly clumsy No, they're not "terrorists" and it isn't "not entirely inappropriate in the circumstances."

Can we settle on "Imbecile Activists"?

[Morrigu]

I see your point about Zoo's and while some/several would fall into that category, I don't think all do. While the ideal would be to have endangered animals remain in the wild, sometimes that's not practical. Plus, if people get an appreciation of these animals by seeing them at a zoo and then want to help protect them in the wild, that's gotta be a good thing, so there's an educative element as well.

Hmmm yes the educative element is important no doubt! Not everyone is fortunate enough to be able to travel and see them in their environment - understand that but not zoos!! Ethical sanctuaries where humans can see ( and hopefully appreciate) these beautiful animals in as close as possible to their natural habbitat and NO captive breeding and shipping them around the world to suit breeding programs. Loss of habitat due to humans, orphaned and rescued animals due to poaching, rescues from abuse such as bile farming and " shows" like poxy circuses etc and muppets who buy them as cute pets unfortunately means that there are many many animals who need the safety of sanctuaries.

[Pies4shaw]

Yes, Stui - I apologise. I didn't mean to misquote you. So I guess we're left with the slightly clumsy No, they're not "terrorists" and it isn't "not entirely inappropriate in the circumstances."

Can we settle on "Imbecile Activists"?

Why the compound concept? Aren’t they just imbeciles?

[stui magpie]

well, all imbeciles aren't activists, but are all activists imbeciles?

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