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Ch. 7 (TB) is claiming we have "won the race" for Tohill. |
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MightyMagpie
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Langdon a lock, Moore a lock ... Magpie miracle man Tyson Goldsack talks about his future on @7NewsMelbourne tonight ... coming up 645.
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| Tohill does look well-coordinated for his height. |
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MightyMagpie
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| MightyMagpie wrote: | | Langdon a lock, Moore a lock ... Magpie miracle man Tyson Goldsack talks about his future on @7NewsMelbourne tonight ... coming up 645. |
Tyson Goldsack a lock for next year ... will sign a one year deal once trade period ends.
“It was never really in doubt,” Goldsack told @7NewsMelbourne tonight.
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masoncox
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According to Ch 7 we a still very much in the hunt for Beams or May.
Depends on the Freo Brissy trade. |
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RudeBoy
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| K wrote: |
Ch. 7 (TB) is claiming we have "won the race" for Tohill. |
He looks a skinny phucker.  |
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MightyMagpie
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^^^ 198cm
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| Raw Hammer wrote: | The last 15 AFL drafts had produced these Pick 18s:
2003. Llane Spaanderman | Brisbane
2004. Cameron Wood | Brisbane
2005. Max Bailey | Hawthorn
2006. Leroy Jetta | Essendon
2007. Alex Rance | Richmond ***
2008. Luke Shuey | West Coast ***
2009. Luke Tapscott | Melbourne
2010. Matthew Watson | Carlton
2011. Brad McKenzie | North Melbourne
2012. Brodie Grundy (followed by Ben Kennedy and Tim Broomhead) | Collingwood ***
2013. Luke Dunstan | St Kilda **
2014. Isaac Heeney | Sydney (Academy pick, who probably would’ve gone Pick 1) … therefore Kyle Langford (Pick 17) | Essendon **
2015. Jade Greshanm | St Kilda **
2016. Sam Powell-Pepper | Port Adelaide **
2017. Brandon Starcevich | Brisbane **
*** AFL stars / guns
** Serviceable / jury still out
3/15 guns (20% strike rate)
5/15 either serviceable or “jury still out”
Approximately 50% of the last Pick 18s will play 100 games of AFL football, but just 20% will be guns.
Therefore, if Collingwood was to give up 2 x Picks 18s (or thereabouts), there’s a very small chance either will be an out and out gun, and the likelihood is that just one of them will turn into a serviceable AFL player (and will take 3-5 seasons before they begin to be walk-up starts).
My verdict: bet on the sure thing (Beams). Our premiership window is open now. |
All that doesn’t mean much other than some recruiters
are duds. Beams went pk28 in 2008 I’m sure if we had pk 18
we would have taken him. Can’t be bothered with the other years but the question should be “ were there any good/guns taken after pk 18
Between 2003-20017” not who was taken at pk 18 |
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K
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| RudeBoy wrote: | | K wrote: |
Ch. 7 (TB) is claiming we have "won the race" for Tohill. |
He looks a skinny phucker. |
"Anton Tohill Ireland – Country Derry
14/12/1999 Height: 198cm Weight: 86kg
Tall defender/midfielder/forward from Derry in Northern Ireland who is the son of former GAA and International Rules star Anthony Tohill who spent time at the Melbourne Football Club in the 1990s. Athletic 18-year-old with excellent foot skills and agility. Also joined the NAB AFL Academy in the USA earlier this year and was impressive."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-09-06/tall-defenders-revealed-for-nab-afl-draft-combine |
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Raw Hammer
Joined: 11 Sep 2008
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| scoobydoo wrote: | | Raw Hammer wrote: | The last 15 AFL drafts had produced these Pick 18s:
2003. Llane Spaanderman | Brisbane
2004. Cameron Wood | Brisbane
2005. Max Bailey | Hawthorn
2006. Leroy Jetta | Essendon
2007. Alex Rance | Richmond ***
2008. Luke Shuey | West Coast ***
2009. Luke Tapscott | Melbourne
2010. Matthew Watson | Carlton
2011. Brad McKenzie | North Melbourne
2012. Brodie Grundy (followed by Ben Kennedy and Tim Broomhead) | Collingwood ***
2013. Luke Dunstan | St Kilda **
2014. Isaac Heeney | Sydney (Academy pick, who probably would’ve gone Pick 1) … therefore Kyle Langford (Pick 17) | Essendon **
2015. Jade Greshanm | St Kilda **
2016. Sam Powell-Pepper | Port Adelaide **
2017. Brandon Starcevich | Brisbane **
*** AFL stars / guns
** Serviceable / jury still out
3/15 guns (20% strike rate)
5/15 either serviceable or “jury still out”
Approximately 50% of the last Pick 18s will play 100 games of AFL football, but just 20% will be guns.
Therefore, if Collingwood was to give up 2 x Picks 18s (or thereabouts), there’s a very small chance either will be an out and out gun, and the likelihood is that just one of them will turn into a serviceable AFL player (and will take 3-5 seasons before they begin to be walk-up starts).
My verdict: bet on the sure thing (Beams). Our premiership window is open now. |
All that doesn’t mean much other than some recruiters
are duds. Beams went pk28 in 2008 I’m sure if we had pk 18
we would have taken him. Can’t be bothered with the other years but the question should be “ were there any good/guns taken after pk 18
Between 2003-20017” not who was taken at pk 18 |
You see, I’m sick of that argument. It’s like you can go back in time and replace any dud pick (Collingwood included) with the next best that appears after that pick.
You can really only go by who the team at Pick 18 (in this instance) thought was the best available, and assume most (all) other teams would have done the same.
This is who we went with immediately after the Brodie Grundy Pick, and the players that were still available.
2012 AFL Draft
Pick 19. Ben Kennedy
Pick 20. Tim Broomhead
Pick 38. Jackson Ramsay
Marco Paparone (23)
Tim O’Brien (28 )
Ben Jacobs (37)
Mason Wood (41)
Dean Kent (48 )
Mark Hutchings (60)
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| ^ Really, the truth lies somewhere in between. It depends exactly how good your recruiting guys are. If you want to look at who was chosen at pick whatever for all those years, you're basically saying that the recruiting guys with those picks are all good stand-ins for our recruiting guys now. If you want to look at the best players still available at pick whatever in all those years, you're basically saying that our recruiting guys now are as good as someone with magical powers of hindsight. |
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Brown26
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Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
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Whatever happened to Jackson Ramsay - anyone know? I thought he looked the goods, and would certainly been a chance in this current game plan, injuries aside. Is he playing locally anywhere I wonder? Maybe with Kent Butcher....
- Ben |
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RudeBoy
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| Brown26 wrote: | Whatever happened to Jackson Ramsay - anyone know? I thought he looked the goods, and would certainly been a chance in this current game plan, injuries aside. Is he playing locally anywhere I wonder? Maybe with Kent Butcher....
- Ben |
I thought Chad Liddell was destined to be the next Daics.    |
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stui magpie 
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
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Pies4shaw 
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| Brown26 wrote: | Whatever happened to Jackson Ramsay - anyone know? I thought he looked the goods, and would certainly been a chance in this current game plan, injuries aside. Is he playing locally anywhere I wonder? Maybe with Kent Butcher....
- Ben |
I’m reasonably sure that he went back west and suffered a serious injury, perhaps an ACL. |
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