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Dave The Man 
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| nomadjack wrote: | This appeal decision is a joke and further demonstrates how inept the
ICC is. Justice Hansen acccepted that Singh may have used the term 'Teri Maki' as he claimed, and that this could have been misheard by Symonds, Hayden and others as Monkey. Perhaps he could explain why this defence wasn't raised in the initial hearing?
He also dismissed the umpires suggestion that Tendulkar was not close enough to hear any remarks and then relied heavily on Tendulkar's statement to find the charge unproved. Go figure.
Apparently calling someone of West Indian descent a 'big monkey' is also no longer a racially offensive term to the 'ordinary person' (would love to see the good Justice Hansen call Curtly Ambrose a monkey and see what happened, although in his defence, Symonds apparently said he didn't think the level of offence was serious enough to warrant a charge under 3.3 of the code).
The real joke is that the ICC failed to provide a full list of Singh's previous offences under the code of conduct for the purposes of sentencing. Only one offence was listed prior to sentencing, with three others only brought to light after the sentence was passed when it was too late to change the penalty. Justice Hansen commented that had he known about the 2001 offence as he should have, this may have affected the penalty imposed. What a phucking joke.
Full judgement is available here:
http://icc-cricket.yahoo.com/media-release/2008/january/media-release20080130-59.html
The sooner these bastards piss off home the better. I used to have a lot of respect for Tendulkar, Kumble, Dravid and Laxman and most of the Indian team. Right now I wouldn't use them to wipe my arse. |
Bloody Oath, I know what the Evidence was - It was a Big Brown Bag Full of $100 Bills.
Show what a Joke Cricket has become.
Start of the Summer I thought the Indians where a Good Cricket Team now I see them as Scum of the Earth but that might insult Scum itself
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stui magpie 
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They're still a good cricket team Dave. Blame the controlling body the BCCI, not the players. Singh was the one who stuffed up.
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HAL
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| Dave The Man wrote: | [quote="nomadjack"]This appeal decision is a joke and further demonstrates how inept the
ICC is. Justice Hansen acccepted that Singh may have used the term 'Teri Maki' as he claimed, and that this could have been misheard by Symonds, Hayden and others as Monkey. Perhaps he could explain why this defence wasn't raised in the initial hearing?
He also dismissed the umpires suggestion that Tendulkar was not close enough to hear any remarks and then relied heavily on Tendulkar's statement to find the charge unproved. Go figure.
Apparently calling someone of West Indian descent a 'big monkey' is also no longer a racially offensive term to the 'ordinary person' (would love to see the good Justice Hansen call Curtly Ambrose a monkey and see what happened, although in his defence, Symonds apparently said he didn't think the level of offence was serious enough to warrant a charge under 3.3 of the code).
The real joke is that the ICC failed to provide a full list of Singh's previous offences under the code of conduct for the purposes of sentencing. Only one offence was listed prior to sentencing, with three others only brought to light after the sentence was passed when it was too late to change the penalty. Justice Hansen commented that had he known about the 2001 offence as he should have, this may have affected the penalty imposed. What a phucking joke.
Full judgement is available here:
http://icc-cricket.yahoo.com/media-release/2008/january/media-release20080130-59.html
The sooner these bastards piss off home the better. I used to have a lot of respect for Tendulkar, Kumble, Dravid and Laxman and most of the Indian team. Right now I wouldn't use them to wipe my arse.[/quote]
Bloody Oath, I know what the Evidence was - It was a Big Brown Bag Full of $100 Bills.
Show what a Joke Cricket has become.
Start of the Summer I thought the Indians where a Good Cricket Team now I see them as Scum of the Earth but that might insult Scum itself |
Where did you get it? Look to your left. |
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Dave The Man
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| stui magpie wrote: | | They're still a good cricket team Dave. Blame the controlling body the BCCI, not the players. Singh was the one who stuffed up. |
What about Sachin Lying about it and Kumble Spraying Australia on who they play.
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John Wren 
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wish hansen would use plain english in his report.
| Quote: | | [9] As a consequence Mr Jordan called those witness who signed the agreed statement other than Mr Gilchrist who was unwell, to give evidence of their recollection of what occurred. |
pissed huh?
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| Dave The Man wrote: | | stui magpie wrote: | | They're still a good cricket team Dave. Blame the controlling body the BCCI, not the players. Singh was the one who stuffed up. |
What about Sachin Lying about it and Kumble Spraying Australia on who they play. |
Oh that's simply explained Dave. Are you ready? Ok here goes...
BULLSHIT walks MONEY talks! |
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Dave The Man
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| EBB wrote: | | Dave The Man wrote: | | stui magpie wrote: | | They're still a good cricket team Dave. Blame the controlling body the BCCI, not the players. Singh was the one who stuffed up. |
What about Sachin Lying about it and Kumble Spraying Australia on who they play. |
Oh that's simply explained Dave. Are you ready? Ok here goes...
BULLSHIT walks MONEY talks! |
Well That is Sad Then How Cricket has Become, It's Very Sad 
The Gentleman Game is Dead
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John Wren
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| Dave The Man wrote: | | EBB wrote: | | Dave The Man wrote: | | stui magpie wrote: | | They're still a good cricket team Dave. Blame the controlling body the BCCI, not the players. Singh was the one who stuffed up. |
What about Sachin Lying about it and Kumble Spraying Australia on who they play. |
Oh that's simply explained Dave. Are you ready? Ok here goes...
BULLSHIT walks MONEY talks! |
Well That is Sad Then How Cricket has Become, It's Very Sad
The Gentleman Game is Dead |
long live the gentleman's game. here endeth the sermon this thirtieth day of january in the lord's year two thousand and eight.
can this thread go the same way?
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Dave The Man
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| Jock McPie wrote: | | Dave The Man wrote: | | EBB wrote: | | Dave The Man wrote: | | stui magpie wrote: | | They're still a good cricket team Dave. Blame the controlling body the BCCI, not the players. Singh was the one who stuffed up. |
What about Sachin Lying about it and Kumble Spraying Australia on who they play. |
Oh that's simply explained Dave. Are you ready? Ok here goes...
BULLSHIT walks MONEY talks! |
Well That is Sad Then How Cricket has Become, It's Very Sad
The Gentleman Game is Dead |
long live the gentleman's game. here endeth the sermon this thirtieth day of january in the lord's year two thousand and eight.
can this thread go the same way? |
Probably not - It will most likely come back after the 20/20 at least but The ICC is so Corrupt it's not F**king Funny 
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Interesting word "gentleman". anyone know where it stems from..is it gentile? Where does gentile stem from? and so on..
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John Wren
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good point ebb. latin 'gentilis' or 'gens' + 'man'.
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stui magpie
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I find two things very interesting in the judgement that Nomad posted a link to.
1. The agreed statement signed by Singh and a number of Australians that stated that Symonds swore at Singh and that Singh responded with words designed to give offence.
2. The fact that the ICC code did not provide a standard of proof so the investigator "invented" one part way between the civil "balance of probabilities" and the criminal "beyond reasonable doubt". He also referenced Proctor as having made his decision on the basis of "beyond reasonable doubt" which surprises me. I would have thought that, failing anything being spelled out, the civil standard would have been the appropriate one.
They've basically twisted it so that Singh may have said a hinu swear word that could be mistaken for monkey but losely translates as "motherf&*ker".
What a total and absolute crock of sh1t.
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Dave The Man
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| stui magpie wrote: | I find two things very interesting in the judgement that Nomad posted a link to.
1. The agreed statement signed by Singh and a number of Australians that stated that Symonds swore at Singh and that Singh responded with words designed to give offence.
2. The fact that the ICC code did not provide a standard of proof so the investigator "invented" one part way between the civil "balance of probabilities" and the criminal "beyond reasonable doubt". He also referenced Proctor as having made his decision on the basis of "beyond reasonable doubt" which surprises me. I would have thought that, failing anything being spelled out, the civil standard would have been the appropriate one.
They've basically twisted it so that Singh may have said a hinu swear word that could be mistaken for monkey but losely translates as "motherf&*ker".
What a total and absolute crock of sh1t. |
The ICC just Sucked the Indians(BCCI) Cocks and Said "is that better now" 
Why would you want to play International Cricket now with this Crap?
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