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thompsoc
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| Lazza wrote: | ^^^^
A really great factual post dude but the "perceptive fellow" will merely say that this is nothing more than yet another excuse.... 
You cannot win them over with however much sense, logic or rational argument you put up. They are a totally lost cause. Their only �cause� to put shit on all things Collingwood and whinge their backsides out at every opportunity at the moment until Bucks is sacked. Poor lost souls imo.   |
so when we get Goldy and Sinky and some of the newbies back it is all going to be making hay while the sun shines.
In the words from that movie the castle
Get your hands off it Daryl! 
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Jez07
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It isn't about wins and losses. It is about processes and systems.
Even with long injury lists, there is not one hint of a sustaniable, recognizable and defined system. |
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RudeBoy
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
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| hot pie wrote: | Jez07, whilst we understand freedom of speech, for someone that has been a member of Nicks for 10 days, could you start being a little more positive in you much publicised comments regarding our much loved team.
I'm sure you are very welcome to be apart of the Nick's family
We have far too much negativity regarding our team on this board, and we should be supporting the club during this rough period, and not attempting to drag us down even further.
The best comment in this thread was the one about that "we really have no idea what is truly happening inside our club", so lets no longer make statements about people at the club and confuse options with facts.
Supporting our team is more about just winning, it's a little like being a parent, you stick by them no matter what mistakes they make.
We have all the other team supporters trying to kick the crap out of Collingwood, so it is up to us to stand behind our team
Maybe we should all say "Side by Side" to ourselves before we add a negative post,
let's get back to being true Collingwood supporters.
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hot pie 
Joined: 28 Mar 2004
Location: Buderim Queensland
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| Jez07 wrote: | It isn't about wins and losses. It is about processes and systems.
Even with long injury lists, there is not one hint of a sustaniable, recognizable and defined system. |
Ok Jez07, It is about winning and loosing or what is the point of the game,
Are you able to expand your thoughts of what you think our sustainable, recognizable and defined system should look like?
Like you Jez07, I'm certainly not happy with our clubs performance, and I hope this is what is driving the frustrations in your posts, but in the light of day, with the list of injury's to key players, I'm not really surprised, however the amount of injuries over a number of years are a real concern.
I enjoy reading other member thoughts (rather than rants) and as this is my second response to one of your posts please do not take this as a personal attack |
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actually its your second and your third, but who's counting.
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Skids 
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Location: Joined 3/6/02 . Member #175
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| kickit2me wrote: | Just had. a look at a club by club injury list.
Adelaide - 7 (0 long term injuries)
Brisbane - 10 (3)
Carlton - 10 (0)
Collingwood - 15 (4)
Essendon - 4 (1)
Fremantle - 10 (5)
Geelong - 9 (3)
Gold Coast - 10 (7)
GWS - 11 (4)
Hawthorn - 9 (2)
Melbourne - 6 (1)
North 8 (1)
Port - 9 (4)
Richmond 5 (0)
St Kilda 5 (0)
Sydney 6 (1)
West Coast 4 (0)
Western Bulldogs 10 (5)
An injury list of 15, with 4 long term, isn't helping us. |
David Parkin acknowledged this on AFL teams last night too.
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jackcass
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Location: Bendigo
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| What'sinaname wrote: | | hot pie wrote: | Jez07, whilst we understand freedom of speech, for someone that has been a member of Nicks for 10 days, could you start being a little more positive in you much publicised comments regarding our much loved team.
I'm sure you are very welcome to be apart of the Nick's family
We have far too much negativity regarding our team on this board, and we should be supporting the club during this rough period, and not attempting to drag us down even further.
The best comment in this thread was the one about that "we really have no idea what is truly happening inside our club", so lets no longer make statements about people at the club and confuse options with facts.
Supporting our team is more about just winning, it's a little like being a parent, you stick by them no matter what mistakes they make.
We have all the other team supporters trying to kick the crap out of Collingwood, so it is up to us to stand behind our team
Maybe we should all say "Side by Side" to ourselves before we add a negative post,
let's get back to being true Collingwood supporters.
Go Pies |
Who ended up being true Essendon supporters. Those that stood by Hird despite all of the evidence or those realised it was a cluster **** and wanted him gone?
Those wanting Hird gone would have seemed negative in the eyes of the "stand by Hird" brigade, but ultimately, they were right.
So being negative doesn't make anyone less of a true Pies supporter. |
A comparison of a bloke who led a systematic cheating drug regime with a bloke trying to coach a team ravaged by injury.... yeah, why didn't I see that. |
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thompsoc
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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| jackcass wrote: | | What'sinaname wrote: | | hot pie wrote: | Jez07, whilst we understand freedom of speech, for someone that has been a member of Nicks for 10 days, could you start being a little more positive in you much publicised comments regarding our much loved team.
I'm sure you are very welcome to be apart of the Nick's family
We have far too much negativity regarding our team on this board, and we should be supporting the club during this rough period, and not attempting to drag us down even further.
The best comment in this thread was the one about that "we really have no idea what is truly happening inside our club", so lets no longer make statements about people at the club and confuse options with facts.
Supporting our team is more about just winning, it's a little like being a parent, you stick by them no matter what mistakes they make.
We have all the other team supporters trying to kick the crap out of Collingwood, so it is up to us to stand behind our team
Maybe we should all say "Side by Side" to ourselves before we add a negative post,
let's get back to being true Collingwood supporters.
Go Pies |
Who ended up being true Essendon supporters. Those that stood by Hird despite all of the evidence or those realised it was a cluster **** and wanted him gone?
Those wanting Hird gone would have seemed negative in the eyes of the "stand by Hird" brigade, but ultimately, they were right.
So being negative doesn't make anyone less of a true Pies supporter. |
A comparison of a bloke who led a systematic cheating drug regime with a bloke trying to coach a team ravaged by injury.... yeah, why didn't I see that. |
You said it Jackcass ... a bloke who is trying!!!!
And try as he might he is still a dud.
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jackcass
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Location: Bendigo
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| Jez07 wrote: | The people who are critical of the club aren't white ants.
This whole let's support the club blindy mentality is the exact reason we are in the mess we are.
If you truly care for Collingwood, you don't wear rose coloured glasses.
Some people here think the Collingwood FC is Eddie McGuire & Nathan Buckley.
Memo, it isn't. They are just 2 people who pass through the doors. |
You clearly don't even take the time to read what people post before you spew forth the next bucket of vomit.
Point me to the poster who isn't concerned about our performances.
Point me to the poster who isn't worried about our injuries.
Point me to the poster who isn't worried about our structures breaking down.
Point me to the poster who blindly acquiesces to Bucks and Ed and cedes them jobs for life.
Point me to the poster who isn't critical of the club as a consequence of all of these factors.
Just because we choose to behave like civilised adults and discuss/debate these issues without ignoring contributing factors, without the need for blood in the water, without burning down everything we love about the club, we're somehow seen as sunshine and "perceptive fellow" and wearing rose coloured glasses. |
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watt price tully 
Joined: 15 May 2007
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| jackcass wrote: | | Jez07 wrote: | The people who are critical of the club aren't white ants.
This whole let's support the club blindy mentality is the exact reason we are in the mess we are.
If you truly care for Collingwood, you don't wear rose coloured glasses.
Some people here think the Collingwood FC is Eddie McGuire & Nathan Buckley.
Memo, it isn't. They are just 2 people who pass through the doors. |
You clearly don't even take the time to read what people post before you spew forth the next bucket of vomit.
Point me to the poster who isn't concerned about our performances.
Point me to the poster who isn't worried about our injuries.
Point me to the poster who isn't worried about our structures breaking down.
Point me to the poster who blindly acquiesces to Bucks and Ed and cedes them jobs for life.
Point me to the poster who isn't critical of the club as a consequence of all of these factors.
Just because we choose to behave like civilised adults and discuss/debate these issues without ignoring contributing factors, without the need for blood in the water, without burning down everything we love about the club, we're somehow seen as sunshine and "perceptive fellow" and wearing rose coloured glasses. |
What, you think Jez07 is using a straw man agument to bandy repetitive negativity about? 
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What'sinaname 
Joined: 29 May 2010
Location: Living rent free
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| jackcass wrote: | | What'sinaname wrote: | | hot pie wrote: | Jez07, whilst we understand freedom of speech, for someone that has been a member of Nicks for 10 days, could you start being a little more positive in you much publicised comments regarding our much loved team.
I'm sure you are very welcome to be apart of the Nick's family
We have far too much negativity regarding our team on this board, and we should be supporting the club during this rough period, and not attempting to drag us down even further.
The best comment in this thread was the one about that "we really have no idea what is truly happening inside our club", so lets no longer make statements about people at the club and confuse options with facts.
Supporting our team is more about just winning, it's a little like being a parent, you stick by them no matter what mistakes they make.
We have all the other team supporters trying to kick the crap out of Collingwood, so it is up to us to stand behind our team
Maybe we should all say "Side by Side" to ourselves before we add a negative post,
let's get back to being true Collingwood supporters.
Go Pies |
Who ended up being true Essendon supporters. Those that stood by Hird despite all of the evidence or those realised it was a cluster **** and wanted him gone?
Those wanting Hird gone would have seemed negative in the eyes of the "stand by Hird" brigade, but ultimately, they were right.
So being negative doesn't make anyone less of a true Pies supporter. |
A comparison of a bloke who led a systematic cheating drug regime with a bloke trying to coach a team ravaged by injury.... yeah, why didn't I see that. |
The comment was about what defines a true supporter. Following the heard does make one a better supporter than someone who thinks otherwise. But I can understand how you struggle to comprehend that. |
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thompsoc
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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| jackcass wrote: | | Jez07 wrote: | The people who are critical of the club aren't white ants.
This whole let's support the club blindy mentality is the exact reason we are in the mess we are.
If you truly care for Collingwood, you don't wear rose coloured glasses.
Some people here think the Collingwood FC is Eddie McGuire & Nathan Buckley.
Memo, it isn't. They are just 2 people who pass through the doors. |
You clearly don't even take the time to read what people post before you spew forth the next bucket of vomit. spew forth vomit!
Point me to the poster who isn't concerned about our performances.
Point me to the poster who isn't worried about our injuries.
Point me to the poster who isn't worried about our structures breaking down.
Point me to the poster who blindly acquiesces to Bucks and Ed and cedes them jobs for life.
Point me to the poster who isn't critical of the club as a consequence of all of these factors.
Just because we choose to behave like civilised adults and discuss/debate these issues without ignoring contributing factors, without the need for blood in the water, without burning down everything we love about the club, we're somehow seen as sunshine and "perceptive fellow" and wearing rose coloured glasses. |
"spew forth vomit."
You are such a charming man.
If you can't handle the heat then get out of the kitchen!
maybe you should migrate across to Big Footy or Hotrods
So your superior intellect can grace greener pastures.
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we don't eat our own at collingwood we just allow them to foul our nest. |
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jackcass
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Location: Bendigo
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| What'sinaname wrote: | | jackcass wrote: | | What'sinaname wrote: | | hot pie wrote: | Jez07, whilst we understand freedom of speech, for someone that has been a member of Nicks for 10 days, could you start being a little more positive in you much publicised comments regarding our much loved team.
I'm sure you are very welcome to be apart of the Nick's family
We have far too much negativity regarding our team on this board, and we should be supporting the club during this rough period, and not attempting to drag us down even further.
The best comment in this thread was the one about that "we really have no idea what is truly happening inside our club", so lets no longer make statements about people at the club and confuse options with facts.
Supporting our team is more about just winning, it's a little like being a parent, you stick by them no matter what mistakes they make.
We have all the other team supporters trying to kick the crap out of Collingwood, so it is up to us to stand behind our team
Maybe we should all say "Side by Side" to ourselves before we add a negative post,
let's get back to being true Collingwood supporters.
Go Pies |
Who ended up being true Essendon supporters. Those that stood by Hird despite all of the evidence or those realised it was a cluster **** and wanted him gone?
Those wanting Hird gone would have seemed negative in the eyes of the "stand by Hird" brigade, but ultimately, they were right.
So being negative doesn't make anyone less of a true Pies supporter. |
A comparison of a bloke who led a systematic cheating drug regime with a bloke trying to coach a team ravaged by injury.... yeah, why didn't I see that. |
The comment was about what defines a true supporter. Following the heard does make one a better supporter than someone who thinks otherwise. But I can understand how you struggle to comprehend that. |
Right, so he didn't use Hird and the Bumbers as a point of comparison then... right... thanks for clearing that up for me... |
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jackcass
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Location: Bendigo
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| watt price tully wrote: | | jackcass wrote: | | Jez07 wrote: | The people who are critical of the club aren't white ants.
This whole let's support the club blindy mentality is the exact reason we are in the mess we are.
If you truly care for Collingwood, you don't wear rose coloured glasses.
Some people here think the Collingwood FC is Eddie McGuire & Nathan Buckley.
Memo, it isn't. They are just 2 people who pass through the doors. |
You clearly don't even take the time to read what people post before you spew forth the next bucket of vomit.
Point me to the poster who isn't concerned about our performances.
Point me to the poster who isn't worried about our injuries.
Point me to the poster who isn't worried about our structures breaking down.
Point me to the poster who blindly acquiesces to Bucks and Ed and cedes them jobs for life.
Point me to the poster who isn't critical of the club as a consequence of all of these factors.
Just because we choose to behave like civilised adults and discuss/debate these issues without ignoring contributing factors, without the need for blood in the water, without burning down everything we love about the club, we're somehow seen as sunshine and "perceptive fellow" and wearing rose coloured glasses. |
What, you think Jez07 is using a straw man agument to bandy repetitive negativity about? |
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CarringbushCigar 
Joined: 15 Nov 2007
Location: wherever I lay my beanie
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| thompsoc wrote: | | jackcass wrote: | | Jez07 wrote: | The people who are critical of the club aren't white ants.
This whole let's support the club blindy mentality is the exact reason we are in the mess we are.
If you truly care for Collingwood, you don't wear rose coloured glasses.
Some people here think the Collingwood FC is Eddie McGuire & Nathan Buckley.
Memo, it isn't. They are just 2 people who pass through the doors. |
You clearly don't even take the time to read what people post before you spew forth the next bucket of vomit. spew forth vomit!
Point me to the poster who isn't concerned about our performances.
Point me to the poster who isn't worried about our injuries.
Point me to the poster who isn't worried about our structures breaking down.
Point me to the poster who blindly acquiesces to Bucks and Ed and cedes them jobs for life.
Point me to the poster who isn't critical of the club as a consequence of all of these factors.
Just because we choose to behave like civilised adults and discuss/debate these issues without ignoring contributing factors, without the need for blood in the water, without burning down everything we love about the club, we're somehow seen as sunshine and "perceptive fellow" and wearing rose coloured glasses. |
"spew forth vomit."
You are such a charming man.
If you can't handle the heat then get out of the kitchen!
maybe you should migrate across to Big Footy or Hotrods
So your superior intellect can grace greener pastures. |
We should have Nicks Survivor.
Every time the pies lose we vote off the island 1 Lollipper.
Every time the pies win we vote off 1 SSer.
Whoever is voted off loses their posting privileges for 1 month. |
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