Heritier Lumumba about to launch a broadside at the club

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Published in Zero Hanger and is based on a Facebook Post

"Heritier Lumumba�has taken yet another swipe at former club, Collingwood in a Facebook post in Thursday morning.
Following�news�that emerged last week that Lumumba has hit out at his former side as�a �boys� club for racist and sexist jokes� in an upcoming documentary, the ex-Pie and Demon is in the headlines once again, following a social media post directed at the Collingwood Football Club.
Lumumba, who retired from AFL at the end of last season due to concussion, also criticised the AFL and the AFL�Players� Association.
Read Lumumba�s full Facebook post below:
�The nickname �Chimp�, that was used during my time at the Collingwood Football Club is just one of countless examples of institutionalized racism within the AFL.
The systematic nature of racism in the AFL is evident in the operation of Recruitment and List Management departments of football clubs; the management of�players�by agents; the AFL�s failure to protect its highest profile Aboriginal player,�Adam Goodes, from ongoing racism that effectively ended his career; the AFL�and Collingwood Football Club�s failure to sanction or penalise Eddie McGuire following his comments comparing�Adam Goodes�to an ape.
Furthermore,�players�like Joel Wilkinson, who have been direct victims of racism, have been threatened and silenced when their experience disrupts the AFL�s comfortable multicultural narrative, along with having their recruitment and careers jeopardized for speaking out.
It is disappointing that so far the Collingwood Football Club have chosen to minimise and dismiss my experiences. I�m further disappointed, but not entirely surprised, that the AFL and the AFL�Players� Association have made no comment whatsoever about the issues I have raised.
I am grateful to the�players�and former teammates who have stood by me and confirmed my story like Shae McNamara. I also recently spoke to Leon Davis, who said �Your experiences of racism at Collingwood were a continuation of my own experiences at the club. I stand side by side with you.��
Lumumba played 199 games with Collingwood from 2005 to 204, before falling out with the club and moving to Melbourne, where he played 24 games in two seasons."


How many times does he need to repeat himself. I just hope this dies down over the next couple of months and we never hear of him again.

[Piesnchess]

I still have very fond memories of H, his shining moment was kicking the absolute sealer in the GF replay, and sinking to his knees, wow, what a moment, we knew we had the flag then, one for the ages.

[Kwah-LeBaire]

I feel really sorry for H.

I grew up with the burden of an unspellable, unpronounceable Polish surname. I went to school with a dominant group of Irish Catholic farm boys, who weren�t going to allow a �Polish Kraut� to sully the neighbourhood without contributing a few comments or the occasional punch to the side of the head.

When I went to my mother to complain, she said, quietly: �Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.� She was, you see, part of the Old Insensitivity. It comes as no surprise that some of the modern paragons of the New Sensitivity want to drag her out of the nursing home where she has been hiding for years, and beat her to death, as an example to the rest of us of what can happen to insensitive people.

My father was sixteen when the Nazis marched into Poland. They shot my grandfather and threw my father into the back of a truck. He was taken to Germany to labour as a slave for six years. He never talked about his experiences, so I don�t know if anyone called him names. When he was dying, he said to me that his great wish was that, when he was young, someone had called him �Chimp� and given him so much money that he could afford to retire in his thirties and live in America without having to look for a job.

You just can�t please these European refugees, not if they were part of the Old Insensitivity, too.

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[HAL]

If you were him would you do that?

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[MJ23]

Racism clearly is not acceptable in any club let alone society. In many ways its sporting community's / team mates who have been ahead of the curve in dealing with these issues. Thats not to say they will always get it right or that "casual Racism" is any more acceptable.

The difference between the two is intent. This dosent make it any better but does allow for education, understanding and a chance to sincerely apologise.

What I struggle with though is H and his history. He has form in behaviours that contradict his zero tolerance stance in sexism and has made public statements that have made you wonder "what the hell?".

What he is now saying is that former team mates were racist towards him and that the club did nothing about it. If he is so certain of his convictions then Id like him to name the player/players. Id like him to be specific about who from the clubs administration knew about it and did nothing.

Given that the club lead by Pert, challenged the AFL industry regarding drugs, I couldn't understand how or why they would want to sweep something like this under the carpet.

H played just under 200 games and most of them were under Malthouse - where does his responsibility lie ?

H and the footy world were certain that the Dees got the best out of his trade and that Buckleys management skills lost us an important player. Im not sure H is happy with history reflecting that this trade was a great decision by the club.

There are many ways to challenge history to ensure we learn from our mistakes / opportunities. All I can see is vindictiveness a struggle for attention and relevance which unfortunately lends doubt to where the game / our club is actually at when it comes to racism and his experience.

If Im a former team mate of his and done nothing wrong Id be feeling more than a little upset about the accusation.

[Lazza]

I'm a migrant (many moons ago) to this beautiful country of Australia, being born in Sri Lanka. To my mind, Harry has bloody huge pappadums, one on each of his shoulders. To be offended by a name like "chimp" in a male dominated footy environment shows that at the very least, he is extremely thin skinned. At worst, he is a wus. I happen to love chimps btw.
I believe that offence is taken, not given and that like all such situations, it�s a personal choice one takes. If you don�t look for a solution, you are part of the problem. My solution was to use humour, when relevant or to let the fire burn itself out by refusing to participate in this "naming game".
I once found myself in a work meeting with an indigenous family that after a while, referred to me as a coconut. Thinking it was a remark about my very short hair at the time, I laughed with them, but this seemed to upset them more! After the meeting, I mentioned this to a colleague who informed me that coconut was a racial term meaning that I was brown on the outside but white on the inside! As from then onwards, I referred to myself as the coconut at every single meeting with this family and it became a bit of a stale joke. They stopped using it very soon!!
I also played competitive cricket for over 45 years. Cutting to the chase, I was called far more seriously racist names in many games, especially when I batted. I just either laughed my arse off or gave back smart arse answers and they seemed to be surprised at my reaction. The best response was to score big runs but I did not always do this! After the game in those old days, it was the norm to have a beer with the opposition. It was all good. I guess this was all before bloody political correctness invaded our lives and this current notion that one MUST get upset with anything said that is outside the "acceptable box" for someone. I must have been born on another planet because mostly, I always refused to be categorised and preferred to think outside of the box. It has worked for me all my life. Humans are a varied species and however much you try; the reality is that both evil and blessed goodness will always find themselves rooming together at some stage. Sometimes evil/vilification wins, sometimes the goodness/making someone take accountability for being bad wins or mostly it ends in a draw.
Anyway, I think Harry is playing the victim/racist card which is the easiest thing to do but the hardest to confirm the solid evidence and accuracy, especially after a few years. Also it is a haven for much exaggeration to make the story a greater hit with others with a victim mentality.
He is entitled to his opinion as am I. I�m certain that most here will probably agree to strongly disagree with me but that�s totally fine with me. I�ll go share a joke with a mate rather than choose to be offended or to feel personally vilified: lol:

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[WarrenerraW]

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Hi Folks.
Lazza, you can have a beer with me anytime! You're an Aussie, mate.
Good story.
I was also called names at school. When I told my mother she laughed and told me the sticks and stones rhyme.
Never bothered me after that.
Regards to all. (and H).