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The Boy Who Cried Wolf
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| Have you sent your resume down to Vic Park yet?!? |
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think positive 
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Joined: 30 Jun 2005
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | | So, we play Oxley as a like for like change? |
I like Oxley.
But there ain't no like for like there at all. Not even the size of their jocks.
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piedys 
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| Piesnchess wrote: | | Well, we could always swap Cloke for Casboult, could be a win-win for both clubs. ! LOL |
And... we'd end up with a tall who is a great mark, but shithouse kick for goal? Clokeboult. 
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perthmagpie 
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Location: Yarrawonga
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My worry is that Cloke is our best pairing to go with Moore. Cloke should be retained and help Moore through the next two years. The alternative is only White or Cox. I have no confidence in those guys to be good enough to lift us into the top four. White is not young anymore and inconsistent. Cloke is durable and will possibly provev to be a loss if he leaves. I worry we are about to make a big mistake, unless we have someone else in mind to trade for like Lobb from GWS.
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think positive
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| perthmagpie wrote: | | My worry is that Cloke is our best pairing to go with Moore. Cloke should be retained and help Moore through the next two years. The alternative is only White or Cox. I have no confidence in those guys to be good enough to lift us into the top four. White is not young anymore and inconsistent. Cloke is durable and will possibly provev to be a loss if he leaves. I worry we are about to make a big mistake, unless we have someone else in mind to trade for like Lobb from GWS. |
Exactly. He's big, strong, still reasonably fast, and more importantly, he's ours. KPP players don't grow on trees. Crazy to cut our losses on this one.
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Culprit 
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
Location: Port Melbourne
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| Cloke should not play Seniors this year. Let him help the VFL team and get him refocused over Summer. In saying that I am all for letting him go, but it has to be a win win situation and that won't happen. |
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Piesnchess
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I still have a feeling Cloke will stay on, and see out his contract, dunno why, i just have this hunch he wont go. At his best, he could still be good for us.
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jackcass
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Location: Bendigo
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| think positive wrote: | | RudeBoy wrote: | | think positive wrote: | So dumb so so so dumb
If only someone had the foresight to build him up rather than tear him down and humiliate him. Yes he has faults, but why not try and play to his strengths? Where was the support when he was trying to run with three defenders hanging off him? Where is the expert kicking coach?
Nope humiliate him, put him in the naughty corner, that'll show ya!
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Mate.....the club has employed several kicking coaches, psychologists including using head phones at training. Bucks has stuck by Cloke for 4 1/2 years. Finally, this year, as a result of the emergence of Darcy Moore, time has caught up with Travis. I doubt any player has had as much support as Travis has had over the course of his career. |
My feeling is the club has stuck fast with Buckley for three years too long. Throwing out the best KPP player this club had had in 20 years will fix what? Let's see who picks him up and hat they do with him. If I'm wrong, I'll admit it. Will you?
IMO a good coach would at the very least use him as a foil for Moore, as Moore build muscle, we would have twin towers that are unbeatable. Use his strengths, ie his massive strength playing 1 on two, as Buckley insists every player should, and use his powerful thumping kick, even from the back line.
And until I see a KPP of Lloyd caliber work with him, no the club has not done enough. Maybe what they have done should have been, but it's not, so keep trying. |
Was Trav at the club when Carey was employed? |
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stui magpie 
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005
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Interesting I heard Carey talking about Cloke on the radio over the weekend.
Among other things, he said Cloke should stay right away from the weights from now on and just focus on his running.
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jackcass
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Location: Bendigo
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| stui magpie wrote: | Interesting I heard Carey talking about Cloke on the radio over the weekend.
Among other things, he said Cloke should stay right away from the weights from now on and just focus on his running. |
I'd agree though if I remember correctly they were saying preseason he'd already dropped weight to cope with the additional aerobic requirements of modern footy. Ditto White. |
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Leggie
Bucks for PM.
Joined: 11 Apr 2005
Location: Perth
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| jackcass wrote: | | stui magpie wrote: | Interesting I heard Carey talking about Cloke on the radio over the weekend.
Among other things, he said Cloke should stay right away from the weights from now on and just focus on his running. |
I'd agree though if I remember correctly they were saying preseason he'd already dropped weight to cope with the additional aerobic requirements of modern footy. Ditto White. |
Seems everyone has an opinion.
CHRIS Judd says Collingwood spearhead Travis Cloke should drop five kilograms and stop upper body weights as part of a bid to re-ignite his AFL career next season.
http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/teams/collingwood/travis-cloke-admits-future-at-collingwood-is-clouded/news-story/1687f171a9b66c4a37a8001390f07633
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SteveH67
Joined: 17 Jul 2004
Location: Canberra, Australia
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[quote="Leggie"] | jackcass wrote: | | stui magpie wrote: | Interesting I heard Carey talking about Cloke on the radio over the weekend.
Among other things, he said Cloke should stay right away from the weights from now on and just focus on his running. |
I'd agree though if I remember correctly they were saying preseason he'd already dropped weight to cope with the additional aerobic requirements of modern footy. Ditto White. |
Seems everyone has an opinion.
I have one too, do you wanna hear mine?
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dillo_09
Joined: 15 Apr 2001
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Apologies if this has been posted elsewhere, but, I was an interested listener to Scott Pendleburys interview on SEN on Saturday morning after the game.
After discussing the ins and outs of the night before the conversation, inevitably, turned its focus to Travis Cloke and how he operates within the team.
Pendles was asked something like
Q -"What does Travis say when the midfield group asks him how/where he wants the ball delivered?"
Pendles A - "Trav asks the midfield group to deliver it out in front of me on the lead"
Next Q - "What does Darcy Moore say when the midfield group asks him how/where he wants the ball delivered?"
Pendles A - Darcy says "Just put it in my general area and I will get it".
Dont take any of the quotes as verbatim, they are roughly how I remember them.
Says a lot about the individual I think and where the club should be focussing its attention. |
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3rd degree
Joined: 22 Jun 2004
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I can never remember Carey copping as much as Cloke.. but then again?
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| 3rd degree wrote: | | I can never remember Carey copping as much as Cloke.. but then again? |
he did. but remember he F$cked the Captains wife!!!
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