Anita Cobby

[Alec. J. Hidell]

I think CP only lowers us to their standard.
I like to think we are better than that.
I have no problem with removing people from society for the term of their natural life, it is the cost we bear as being civil human people.

If we say killing is wrong, we can't then put riders on it, it is hypocritical in the extreme.

Revenge is not justice.

Good discussion, but eh?

[Syd_Magpies_Girl]

I agree.

We are better off putting scumbags like this in solitary confinement somewhere far, far, far away for the rest of their lives.

I for one, would hate to receive a life in imprisonment sentence anywhere in south east asia, or an arab country. The treatment and diseases that float around those prisons are horrible, and are torture for everyone as it is. Most people that even get 20 years, never come out alive.

[Dale61]

[spoljar]

I used to be all in favour of Capital Punishment however my mind has somewhat changed on the matter. The way I see it, its the easy way out for scum like that.

However I do believe that prison life should be a lot tougher for them than it is. One thin Mattress, with a bucket should be more than sufficient for their needs. Perhaps a razor blade with a hint that they can do themselves and everyone else a favour with it also might be the way to go. In short make prison life tough enough so that they become insane and take their own lives.

[John Wren]

why do they sterilise the needle and victim's arm when administering the lethal injection?

i went on a tour of freo prison a few week's ago and got the run down of the last day of someone about to be hanged. frightening stuff but i wonder why they would give one breakfast beforehand. it may be trying to make the day as normal as possible but it is hardly any normal day.

[stui magpie]

It is an interesting topic Frank and Sim, I can't argue you're wrong because I know most of the arguments against capital punishment are valid ones.

I look at, as I said earlier, extreme situations. Those people are very unlikely to be able to be rehabilitated, they aren't put in general population because the other prisoners would kill them. If they were treated as Spoljar suggests there would be constant outcry from human rights activists keeping their name in the media.

Julian Knight isn't a great example, but he's the best current australian one I can think off. (Bryant has the IQ of plankton). Ted Bundy in the USA would be better, but we'll go with Knight.

Knight is in protected custody, constantly litigating against the governmnt and correction services for his rights. He gets fed better then a lot of working families and has access to better healthcare.

How is society served by having that piece of garbage constantly getting his name in the media for his latest stunt (now wanting to write letters to victims) as opposed to just biting the bullet and ending his life 20 years ago.?

For what purpose do we pay for him to be fed, clothed, sheltered, protected, educated and even pay for his legal fees to litigate against the government?

You can't tell me he's doing it hard. He has more notiriety and "fame" than he ever would have had as a 2 bit struggler, he'd be lapping it up.

It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest to see him reoffend within 6 months of being released mainly because, in Gaol - he feels like someone important. Outside, he'd have no hope of getting a job or affording food, shelter and he'd be largely anonymous.

[Joel]

[skaman]

An eye for an eye as far as I'm concerned. Let the punishment equal the crime. Take a life = forfeit yours. I dont want my taxes being used to let these and other oxygen theives, the luxury of being kept in more humane conditions than probably they've been used too. Waste of time and energy for all concerned.

PS. Im talking about murderers. Clear cut 100% low lives as the ones mentioned in the Corby case etc.

[Brewer's Droop]

[member34258]

[stui magpie]

Good point Member, have a read of my earlier posts and see what i proposed as far as a different standard of proof and let me know what you think.

[Alec. J. Hidell]

[stui magpie]

Fair enough. I'm not trying to convince anyone to change their mind, nor to disparage their opinion. It IS an extremely delicate subject.

i agree with the philosophy that it's better for 100 guilty men to go free than 1 innocent one die wrongfully, but I also think there are situations so severe where the perpetrator forfeits their rights to live and it is to societys benefit, not detriment, to remove them. Completely.

Gues this is something else we disagree on. After all those things we were finding in common.

[David]

[skaman]