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woftam 
I used to be undecided, but now I'm not so sure.
Joined: 28 Jul 2008
Location: Carum Downs, Vic
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| inxs88 wrote: | | Pies4shaw wrote: | | How is Stoner's kicking? |
Pat tense. And yes he did great winning 2 World Championships and only injury curbed a third before his 26th birthday and no homesick whinge either! |
I'm a huge Stoner fan & to be honest he did quit because he was sick of all the travel & wanted to return to Australia with his wife & daughter. Had been living overseas since he was a young boy. |
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Tubewayarmy
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There was nothing wrong with him, WA told him to pull the family / mental card so he can be delisted then picked up for nothing - FACT!
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
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watt price tully 
Joined: 15 May 2007
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| woftam wrote: | | inxs88 wrote: | | Pies4shaw wrote: | | How is Stoner's kicking? |
Pat tense. And yes he did great winning 2 World Championships and only injury curbed a third before his 26th birthday and no homesick whinge either! |
I'm a huge Stoner fan ..... |
Yeah I used to be a fan of being a stoner too but that was too many years ago.
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watt price tully
Joined: 15 May 2007
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Isn't Morale & Culture the new Orwellian name for Personnel, sorry Human Resources these days?
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Culprit 
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
Location: Port Melbourne
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69 years a MAGPIE 
Joined: 12 Oct 2015
Location: Hong Kong
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Doggies, Hawks, GWS, Suns, Cats, Pies all lost players to the go home/home sickness factor. Four of those clubs played finals this year so why did players leave? Certainly not because the clubs were not winning. In recent times we have lost Beams and now Marsh - not a lot. Yes we have had a few ask for trades and a few moved on, same as every club, and we have benefited pretty well from the come home factor.
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Geek
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Joined: 06 Apr 2006
Location: Jacana
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| Gotta admit... I'm a Melbourne guy that has been to Margaret River twice in my life and even I get a little homesick for it from time to time. It's a lovely place |
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daicos35 
Is an Phromhroinn linne
Joined: 02 Nov 2007
Location: Not far from a Kilkenny
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| Geek wrote: | | Gotta admit... I'm a Melbourne guy that has been to Margaret River twice in my life and even I get a little homesick for it from time to time. It's a lovely place |
Beat me to it  Some places are harder to leave, Marg's, very nice. Shame to lose Marshy though. Can he play WAFL if he's retired?
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ROB
Joined: 13 Sep 2016
Location: Sydney
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We know nothing about the exact circumstance of this decision. Reasons could range from ill family members through addiction, gambling, money etc. How dare anyone sit in judgement of a person who has decided to put family ahead of anything else.
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inxs88
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| Raw Hammer wrote: | | inxs88 wrote: | Soft as butter! We live in a world where famous sporting Aussie 20+ year old millennials like:
* Jason Day
* Sally Fitzgibbon
* Casey Stoner
whose exploits involve 11 months overseas each year don't pull the "homesick card" and are hardened for the commitment. Yet in AFL, we have luminaries such as Gary Ablett pulling the "homesick card" amidst 10-20 others every October!!!
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All individual sports where they get to move to the beat of their own drum. |
Even harder with no one to blame or lean on!
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partypie
Joined: 01 Oct 2010
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| daicos35 wrote: | | Geek wrote: | | Gotta admit... I'm a Melbourne guy that has been to Margaret River twice in my life and even I get a little homesick for it from time to time. It's a lovely place |
Beat me to it Some places are harder to leave, Marg's, very nice. Shame to lose Marshy though. Can he play WAFL if he's retired? |
It's a long trip to Melbourne from Margaret River, at least 8 hours of flying and driving each way, not exactly easy to go and see the folks and mates when you need a friendly face. I thought he tried really hard when I saw him play. two years in a row he had bad injuries right at the end of the season. And yep, I'd rather live in Margaret River than Melbourne. |
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Cam 
Nick's BB Member #166
Joined: 10 May 2002
Location: Springvale
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| Tubewayarmy wrote: | | There was nothing wrong with him, WA told him to pull the family / mental card so he can be delisted then picked up for nothing - FACT! |
The fact is that you are 100% wrong. And if you think there was nothing wrong with him, you are getting inaccurate information.
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qldmagpie67
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Back on topic. Morale and culture these days are buzz words spoken to either sell the strength of the club or defend a club that's been damaged.
Let's deal with each individually.
Morale. At times on all work places morale can be hi or low depending on several factors. Footy clubs are no different. The morale can be high even without success if all those involved believe they area all singing from the same hymn book. Conversely it can be low if there are splintered groups pulling in different directions all believing there direction is right.
Culture. Depending on how you view this term it depends how important it is. Me personally culture is more a history of a club and what it stands for both on and off the field. Changing culture doesn't actually happen if the clubs history has been shown due respect by all those currently charged with guarding it. What Bucks actually was doing was imparting his own version of discipline. It wasn't cultural adjustment he didn't want certain players who he viewed as being bad examples for either on field or off field behaviour. That isn't a culture it's a behavioural issue and one persons belief on what is acceptable and what isn't. |
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think positive
Side By Side
Joined: 30 Jun 2005
Location: somewhere
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| ROB wrote: | | We know nothing about the exact circumstance of this decision. Reasons could range from ill family members through addiction, gambling, money etc. How dare anyone sit in judgement of a person who has decided to put family ahead of anything else. |
Agree
Be a shame though if we could have got something worthwhile for him in a trade.
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