Death Penalty?

[David]

I don't think there's any suggestion that these two would be released. The next sentence down from the death penalty is life imprisonment, and one imagines that's what they would get if their plea for clemency could somehow be resolved.

Re: Jones, on this occasion I think he speaks well. I have no more time for him than you do, Tannin, but I don't think there's anyone in the world who doesn't at least occasionally have something worthwhile to say. On this occasion, he does.

(Though I'm not sure about the "barbarians at the gates" stuff. Would he say the same about the US?)

[Wokko]

I bet hearing Jones like that causes some cognitive dissonance around here, but the man is very intelligent and well spoken when he takes off the shock jock hat. I think he did reference the US as well David, he's obviously opposed strongly to the death penalty.

And Tannin, Tony Jones is the host

Alan Jones is, as you suspect, the Sydney talk radio host. Dismissing someone's heartfelt, intelligent statement because of political bias doesn't become you. I've even been impressed with Germaine Greer before, and boy did that shock the system

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[Wokko]

You're also comparing a drug courier to mass murderers and infanticides.

[Tannin]

Thanks Wokko, bit of a senior moment there.

I'd ask all Nicksters to ignore my previous posts except that y'all probably do that as routine.

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[HAL]

Not as many as you might think.

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[Culprit]

The Bali ringleaders should be punished as per Indonesian Law. That means the Death Penalty. I am sick and tired of hearing the spin about how they are rehabilitated. I would be too under the same circumstances. They were not importing a few grams here, it was kilos of heroin. I heard one journo say the devastation it will cause the families if they are executed. Let's back the train up here. What about the devastation all the families would have suffered had they got their heroin back here. Denpasar Airport is clearly marked with what happens if you are caught with drugs.

[Wokko]

They're not 'ring leaders', they're mid level distributors. Small fry. They said they couldn't give up the ringleaders/big wigs because their families will get killed.

As for the whole 'drugs kill people' thing, well there is a decision made to take them by the user, and users always manage to get their drugs. Alcohol is just as deadly (if not more) and I don't blame the chick at Dan Murphys or the truck driver for giving an alcoholic their 2nd bottle of bourbon for the day.

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[swoop42]

Yeah I love how those in favour of murdering these two blokes justify it by saying how many lives would have been ruined if the drugs had got through.

Yet if some ice user bashed some old lady that resulted in her death they'd be calling for them to be killed as well.

The hypocrisy is mind blowing.

[Wokko]

[Culprit]

I hear and read that the executions won't mean anything. Barlow and Chambers were executed and the message was loud and clear about Bangkok. The same message will be loud and clear about Indonesia. You import large quantities of drugs into Indonesia and you get caught you will be facing the death penalty.

This is their Law, not ours. The only person I feel for out of the whole episode is Scott Rush's Father who dobbed them in to the AFP and in turn gave his son a life prison sentence.

[David]