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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:10 pm
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I spotted this on the Aged today and actually read the whole thing and thought it was a very good article.

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Feminist male-bashing has come to sound like a cliche – a misogynist caricature. Feminism, its loudest proponents vow, is about fighting for equality. The man-hating label is either a smear or a misunderstanding.
Yet a lot of feminist rhetoric today does cross the line from attacks on sexism into attacks on men, with a strong focus on personal behaviour: the way they talk, the way they approach relationships, even the way they sit on public transport. Male faults are stated as sweeping condemnations; objecting to such generalisations is taken as a sign of complicity. Meanwhile, similar indictments of women would be considered grossly misogynistic.
This gender antagonism does nothing to advance the unfinished business of equality. If anything, the fixation on men behaving badly is a distraction from more fundamental issues, such as changes in the workplace to promote work-life balance. What's more, male-bashing not only sours many men - and quite a few women – on feminism. It often drives them into Internet subcultures where critiques of feminism mix with hostility towards women.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/comment/feminists-treat-men-badly-and-its-bad-for-feminism-20160703-gpxbcp.html#ixzz4DWHXfG8u
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Quite long but well written I thought. A number of the observations could be applied to other topics.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:43 pm
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I think it's a good article, and I'm scared to share it on Facebook because of the potential backlash. Perhaps that says something in its own right.
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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:53 am
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^

That definitely says something, it points toward the article being spot on.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:00 am
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Great article. I agree totally.

I love the "mansplaining' bit! Reminds me of day two of our holiday, when we were, um, loudly conversing about giving driving directions. Junior pipes up from the back seat 'so mum when you said yesterday that's the only arguement we will have for this holiday, that's kinda over now?" Me "who's arguing? This isn't arguing, there's no argument, because I'm just right!'

And of course I was!

He has been right once. When he told her not to walk with a lollipop in her mouth on a crowded bus!

I don't like the term feminist, I always think of a big butch Sheila, short hair, grumpy. I prefer equality, and also, being honest about what you can and can't do. Like lifting 80kg slabs of glass! I can't. I did, but I shouldn't have! I won't ever again. And he shall never give directions. Never. Ever.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:02 am
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David wrote:
I think it's a good article, and I'm scared to share it on Facebook because of the potential backlash. Perhaps that says something in its own right.


I do get this. And it's crazy. People have different opinions. gees be boring if we all thought the same

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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 5:50 pm
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David wrote:
I think it's a good article, and I'm scared to share it on Facebook because of the potential backlash. Perhaps that says something in its own right.


Tell you what, I'll put it on your page and start the fire, you can watch.

What do you think? Razz

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:11 pm
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stui magpie wrote:
David wrote:
I think it's a good article, and I'm scared to share it on Facebook because of the potential backlash. Perhaps that says something in its own right.


Tell you what, I'll put it on your page and start the fire, you can watch.

What do you think? Razz


I thought about doing the same thing lol
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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:12 pm
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All in favour?

I'll load the gun, you can fire the bullets. Razz

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:19 pm
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stui magpie wrote:
All in favour?

I'll load the gun, you can fire the bullets. Razz


To quote the swoosh - just do it! Razz

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:34 pm
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Razz Cool

Consider it a social experiment David.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 8:34 pm
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Haha. We'll see. I have left what I think is a relatively diplomatic comment. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:05 pm
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You did, and one fish has had a few nibbles.

Time for Wokko to do his stuff. Razz

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:09 pm
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Did I really?
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I don't think David's friends like me. At least one blocked me after I had a discussion with him. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:25 pm
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stui magpie wrote:
You did, and one fish has had a few nibbles.

Time for Wokko to do his stuff. Razz


Your not wrong! That guy is itching for a fight!

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