Pre Match. Pies v. Port. All comments please.

[Skids]

[Skids]

[Bucks2014]

Source The Herald Sun. Thought it was interesting for some who questions Treloar's disposal.

Pendlebury and Treloar might have become the best Batman and Robin combo in the game in recent weeks.

Efficiency is everything in the modern game, and Pendlebury and Treloar are hurting their rivals, big time.

Pendlebury’s kick rating is +15.5 per cent, ranked No. 2, of all players who average more than 20 possessions a game.

Treloar? +16.3, ranked No.1.

Champion Data’s kick rating is the best measurement of a player’s effectiveness by foot, because it takes into account the pressure the player is under and the difficulty of what they’re trying to attempt.

The easy kicks don’t count for much. The tough ones, do.

And right, now these two have got Collingwood back in business.

[Mugwump]

Bucks 2014, the data is interesting, but I don't think I have ever seen a player as creative as Pendlebury is by hand or foot, at least in terms of being able to locate someone in space and form a picture of the context around that other player. This awareness is so rare that nearly every time he gets it, it is worth two or three possessions because he creates another possession in the chain for someone who is in a better place than he is. He made a few rare mistakes last weekend as the fatigue told, but overall he is freakish. I guess the data cannot really reflect that aspect.

Treloar is a wonderful player but I don't see him as being in the same class for effectiveness by foot.

[Jezza]

Happy to see Cloke named and somewhat surprised that Toovey isn't going to miss this week after failing the concussion test last week.

[Mugwump]

Apparently Toovey wasn't concussed and he does not seem to have received a hit to the head- they think it was a migraine-like condition. They do not always cause pain, and can be very disorienting for a while.

[thompsoc]

[Pies4shaw]

Having had a look at exposed form of the two teams, you'd reasonably expect Port to win this by 5+ goals. They have averaged 98 points per game, despite low-scoring efforts against GWS in Canberra and Geelong at home. Apart from their poor result against Geelong, they have done better against opposition they have in common with us. Thus, they easily accounted for Richmond, St Kilda, Melbourne, Essendon and Brisbane and lost close games to Carlton (2 points) and West Coast (8 points).

So, in trying to set fair expectations for the players turning out for Collingwood this Sunday, one notes that we kicked 7 goals last week and have brought in a CHF who averages just under 2 goals per game over his career to replace a player who gets half as much of the ball but kicked 2 goals out of last week's 7. So, assuming that Cloke can probably do about as much on the scoreboard as Moore did last week, who will kick the other 7+ additional goals that the 'pies will likely require to win?

[Bucks2014]

They are still guessing in re: to Tooves. This is what I have read yesterday and today. Fellow Pie Alan Toovey had been in doubt after collapsing on the field mid-match last weekend, but Buckley said he was likely to play.

Buckley said Toovey had suffered from delayed concussion symptoms after a couple of hard knocks in the first quarter against the Western Bulldogs.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/travis-cloke-gets-through-training-set-to-return-to-afl-this-weekend-20160602-gp9xg2.html

[jackcass]

[3rd degree]

They have some serious talent in that forward line . I really hope Frost can step up against Dixon. He has got to suck him in and get him to crack the shits and give away some 50s. Maynard or Marsh will be needed to take on Hartlett. I think Sinclair has got to go to Winguard.

[Woods]

[John Wren]

[thompsoc]

Very interesting JW.
It really is a strange event

[What'sinaname]

Not sure why, but I have very little interest in this game. Maybe it's because we know it will all be about Trav and the media will be predictably pathetic in finding every way to screw him.