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Presti35
Dick Lee for Legend Status
Joined: 05 Oct 2001 Location: London, England
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glasseyevfx wrote: | who would come in for Beams? There's been gems there before. |
Daniel Wells. _________________ A Goal Saved Is 2 Goals Earned! |
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Rd10.1998_11.1#36
rd10.1998_11.1#36
Joined: 18 Jul 2018 Location: Sevilla, Spain
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think positive
Side By Side
Joined: 30 Jun 2005 Location: somewhere
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Lol!! _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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Rd10.1998_11.1#36
rd10.1998_11.1#36
Joined: 18 Jul 2018 Location: Sevilla, Spain
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K
Joined: 09 Sep 2011
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robevpau1 wrote: | ...
Despite having three years to run on a four-year deal worth about $2 million, all parties are resigned to the fact Beams’ 177-game career is over. Collingwood and Dayne Beams’ management will now work towards reaching a settlement in relation to the estimated $1.5 million remaining on his contract.(Herald Sun) - Sam Edmund and Michael Warner. |
P. Ryan, The Age, disagrees:
Collingwood supporting Beams, and put footy to the side
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/collingwood-supporting-beams-and-put-footy-to-the-side-20200215-p54140.html
"Collingwood have no intention of entering discussions with sidelined midfielder Dayne Beams about his contract following his car accident in Donvale on Thursday.
Sources at the Magpies told The Age on Saturday that football-related discussions were not a priority for Collingwood officials in relation to Beams..." |
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SteveH67
Joined: 17 Jul 2004 Location: Canberra, Australia
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I feel sorry for Dayne Beams losing his father to cancer and the dreaded mental health issues. I have been through the same things in recent years.
However, I dont expect the club has to pay out his remaining contract if the mooted $2mil over 4 years was given is correct.
My employer wouldn't be expected to pay me out for remaining years, if I had to leave due to mental health issues. _________________ Social club member 7342 since 2000. |
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matrix10
Joined: 17 May 2009
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K wrote: | robevpau1 wrote: | ...
Despite having three years to run on a four-year deal worth about $2 million, all parties are resigned to the fact Beams’ 177-game career is over. Collingwood and Dayne Beams’ management will now work towards reaching a settlement in relation to the estimated $1.5 million remaining on his contract.(Herald Sun) - Sam Edmund and Michael Warner. |
P. Ryan, The Age, disagrees:
Collingwood supporting Beams, and put footy to the side
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/collingwood-supporting-beams-and-put-footy-to-the-side-20200215-p54140.html
"Collingwood have no intention of entering discussions with sidelined midfielder Dayne Beams about his contract following his car accident in Donvale on Thursday.
Sources at the Magpies told The Age on Saturday that football-related discussions were not a priority for Collingwood officials in relation to Beams..." |
possibly quashed 'retirement' settlement in response to yesterday's events/advice from PR.
I wish Dayne all the best and feel for his poor wife and kids.
Not really sure of best approach- cut him from club or bring him in closer? |
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Rd10.1998_11.1#36
rd10.1998_11.1#36
Joined: 18 Jul 2018 Location: Sevilla, Spain
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watt price tully
Joined: 15 May 2007
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Rd10.1998_11.1#36 wrote: | watt price tully wrote: | What is the collective noun for a group of mods? |
A ban of mods |
Then again it could be a “misery” of posters (especially when we lose) _________________ “I even went as far as becoming a Southern Baptist until I realised they didn’t keep ‘em under long enough” Kinky Friedman |
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Monco Matt
Do it to THEM before THEY do it to YOU
Joined: 28 Apr 2009 Location: Sittin, Drinkin, Reloadin & Waitin
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The Beams trade and the Grundy cash will put a full stop on our flag chances for a while. You can't sink two 1st round draft picks into nothing and $1m per season on a ruckman who cannot actually ruck but is basically a big midfielder and expect to win flags...it just doesn't happen. Again, we do this to ourselves. _________________ RED "BABY" CAVANAUGH: Didn't hear what the bet was.
MONCO: Your life. |
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MatthewBoydFanClub
Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Location: Elwood
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SteveH67 wrote: | I feel sorry for Dayne Beams losing his father to cancer and the dreaded mental health issues. I have been through the same things in recent years.
However, I dont expect the club has to pay out his remaining contract if the mooted $2mil over 4 years was given is correct.
My employer wouldn't be expected to pay me out for remaining years, if I had to leave due to mental health issues. |
All of us at some point of time are broken as human beings. We just have to recover and move on with our lives. There's no other way. Hopefully Beams can recover from this and move on with his life and have a meaningful life again, whether that's as a footballer or in some other endeavor. We all wish him well. |
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Piesnchess
piesnchess
Joined: 09 Jun 2008
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Beams has just had rotten bad luck, he will come good, he owes the club, I don't think hes a quitter, he can turn this all around. _________________ Poverty exists not because we cannot feed the poor, but because we cannot satisfy the rich.
Chess and Vodka are born brothers. - Russian proverb. |
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qldmagpie67
Joined: 18 Dec 2008
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People seem to not understand the exact nature of the trade
Dayne’s deal with the lions was far more lucrative than the one he signed with us
We gave up 2 x 1st round picks for a reason
The lions paid a decent chunk of his salary for the first 2 years (around $450k a season)
So basically he’s on 4 years $1.1 million on our books about $275k a year which for what was a top 10-20 player in the league was massive unders
The lions wanted draft picks for Neale trade and they had cap room with many young players in early low contracts
As for the crash I haven’t spoken to Dayne but did speak to Claye and he said Dayne was fine but embarrassed over it
Claye believed Dayne will play football again and hopefully that’s at afl level with us |
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Haff
Joined: 25 Apr 2016
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Thanks qld. There are some pretty bad rumours floating around re the crash so the above is somewhat reassuring. _________________ The match day thread is for unfiltered BS knee jerk reactions. The time for level headed comment comes after. |
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CrossPie18
Joined: 01 Aug 2019
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Thanks qldmagpie. I have taken more notice of your past posts on DB, as you clearly have more knowledge than others. I’m glad he is safe and am relieved that you say it was purely an accident.
One thing that annoys me about us getting him back, is the simplicity with which it is reported that he cost us 2 first round draft picks. Going by the number value of draft picks, this simply isn’t true, because these comments don’t take into account the picks we received in return. Here is how the maths worked:
1. Picks out = 18, 56 and our 2019 pick (15). Total points were 1201 + 407 + 1323 = 2931
2. Picks in = 41, 44. Total points were 631 + 581 = 1212
3. Net points cost = 2931 - 1212 = 1719. This equals ONE pick 8 or 9 in a draft.
Therefore, Dayne cost us the equivalent of a pick 8, or looking it differently, our pick 15 in 2019 (1323 points) and just over a pick 57 (394 points).
This is how we should be assessing the trade, not 2 first rounders.
I personally thought at the time this was still paying a little bit overs, but if we consider we got an extra class player in a genuine premiership window, he is partially paid by Brisbane when our cap is under pressure, plus we still got our targets in Quaynor and Kelly using the points we got back, then this was not the panic sale that the media likes to promote.
Mental health issues aside (we are too far away to speculate, nor should we make public comments on such a personal issue), our recruiters knew what they were giving up for him. To me, it was a considered decision. |
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