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watt price tully 
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| woodys_world69 wrote: | the tv show the recruit has shown me a greater insight into why aboriginal players are so difficult to keep in the system.
20-30 years ago when it was 2 nights a week of training then a game on saturday it was easy for them.
They dont wanna do AFL as a career, there family more then likely does. They just wanna play footy with their mates and get a bit of coin for it.
AFL is a 40 hour a week job now.
Did any of the harlem globe trotters play in the NBA? |
I didn't realise LSD was as so freely available.
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Wokko 
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| watt price tully wrote: | | woodys_world69 wrote: | the tv show the recruit has shown me a greater insight into why aboriginal players are so difficult to keep in the system.
20-30 years ago when it was 2 nights a week of training then a game on saturday it was easy for them.
They dont wanna do AFL as a career, there family more then likely does. They just wanna play footy with their mates and get a bit of coin for it.
AFL is a 40 hour a week job now.
Did any of the harlem globe trotters play in the NBA? |
I didn't realise LSD was as so freely available. |
Even trying to look through the prism of possible racial personality traits and differences, that post is pretty much racist. I'm not talking borderline racist or white liberal guilt racist either, I'm talking full blown racial superiority racist.
I think you may even have a point (somewhat) if you discuss the cultural shock of moving from an outback township or Aboriginal settlement into the city, but you're talking about Blacks having an inability to work hard enough for an athletic career. Even setting aside the many, many successful Aboriginal footballers in both the semi and fully professional era and focusing solely on the washouts, I don't think you can simply point to their Aboriginality, either cultural or racial, as the reason for their failure. |
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watt price tully
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| Wokko wrote: | | watt price tully wrote: | | woodys_world69 wrote: | the tv show the recruit has shown me a greater insight into why aboriginal players are so difficult to keep in the system.
20-30 years ago when it was 2 nights a week of training then a game on saturday it was easy for them.
They dont wanna do AFL as a career, there family more then likely does. They just wanna play footy with their mates and get a bit of coin for it.
AFL is a 40 hour a week job now.
Did any of the harlem globe trotters play in the NBA? |
I didn't realise LSD was as so freely available. |
Even trying to look through the prism of possible racial personality traits and differences, that post is pretty much racist. I'm not talking borderline racist or white liberal guilt racist either, I'm talking full blown racial superiority racist.
I think you may even have a point (somewhat) if you discuss the cultural shock of moving from an outback township or Aboriginal settlement into the city, but you're talking about Blacks having an inability to work hard enough for an athletic career. Even setting aside the many, many successful Aboriginal footballers in both the semi and fully professional era and focusing solely on the washouts, I don't think you can simply point to their Aboriginality, either cultural or racial, as the reason for their failure. |
And you sir win the lounge-suite, although the subject was the bleedin' obvious  
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Wokko
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| watt price tully wrote: | | Wokko wrote: | | watt price tully wrote: | | woodys_world69 wrote: | the tv show the recruit has shown me a greater insight into why aboriginal players are so difficult to keep in the system.
20-30 years ago when it was 2 nights a week of training then a game on saturday it was easy for them.
They dont wanna do AFL as a career, there family more then likely does. They just wanna play footy with their mates and get a bit of coin for it.
AFL is a 40 hour a week job now.
Did any of the harlem globe trotters play in the NBA? |
I didn't realise LSD was as so freely available. |
Even trying to look through the prism of possible racial personality traits and differences, that post is pretty much racist. I'm not talking borderline racist or white liberal guilt racist either, I'm talking full blown racial superiority racist.
I think you may even have a point (somewhat) if you discuss the cultural shock of moving from an outback township or Aboriginal settlement into the city, but you're talking about Blacks having an inability to work hard enough for an athletic career. Even setting aside the many, many successful Aboriginal footballers in both the semi and fully professional era and focusing solely on the washouts, I don't think you can simply point to their Aboriginality, either cultural or racial, as the reason for their failure. |
And you sir win the lounge-suite, although the subject was the bleedin' obvious |
I figured having racism called out by a free speech loony libertarian might have the desired impact.
"I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
-Martin Luther King, Jr.
I believe in this whole heartedly, any intellectual discussion about racial traits aside I think each person deserves to be judged, weighed and measured completely divorced from their ethnic or racial makeup. Of course, I think the judgements made against my own race or just as importantly in advantage due to someone's race are equally repugnant, but I'll save such discussions for VPT. Point is that even if the racial stereotype of the 'walkabout aboriginal' has some basis statistically (not sure one way or another), making such broad brush judgements on individuals is and always will be racism and shouldn't be tolerated. |
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David 
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Good posting, Wokko. Alarm bells always go off in my head whenever someone makes an observation about what "they" want or how "they" think when referring to an entire ethnic/cultural group. It's essentially just an exercise in stereotyping with all the dehumanisation that entails (after all, when you reduce an entire group to cartoon characters who all think and behave the same, you do portray them as somewhat less than human).
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| swoop42 wrote: | I'd rather take a punt on Dayle Garlett.
How's he going by the way?
Playing WAFL? |
Not good
https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/25052349/fallen-hawks-recruit-in-custody/
Gees!
I actually bumped this because of swoops question about Gartlett!
See the article!
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BazBoy
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We took a chance with Andrew Krakouer with moderate sucsess after
his prison release and time playing for Swan Districts
Wonder would the club want to try another player with history
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rocketronnie
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File under "Silly Season Threads".
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| As some of you know, Liam is a close mate of mine, so I'd love nothing more than for him to fulfill his destiny and become the Collingwood player he should have been when he first came down to Melbourne from the Tanami desert all those years ago. However, it was not to be and I think he's happier now being back playing with his friends and relatives in Central Australia. For those interested, he'll be in the Central Australian Football League Grand Final tomorrow, playing for the South Alice Springs Kangaroos. |
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lol double post
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derkd
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| Post subject: Re: Liam Jurrah - Recruit Him? | |
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| The Boy Who Cried Wolf wrote: | Are you insane!!!! Oh look, the rolling eyes disease is back  |
I hear it is contagious 
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This thread tells me one thing about our club. Fans are so desperate to improve our list they are prepared to recruit anyone from outside. After all the stars never come to Collingwood. Interesting that with all the trade talk (Frawley, Ryder, Carlisle, O'Keefe, etc.) not a single one of those has been seriously considered by our club. We are specialists at recruiting second hand duds, so I suppose Jarrah is a monty then.
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Pies4shaw 
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| None of Frawley, Ryder Carlisle or O'Keefe is worth recruiting to Collingwood. If you say the word "Dangerfield", you get quite a different response. |
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King Monkey
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King Monkey
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| Wokko wrote: | | watt price tully wrote: | | woodys_world69 wrote: | the tv show the recruit has shown me a greater insight into why aboriginal players are so difficult to keep in the system.
20-30 years ago when it was 2 nights a week of training then a game on saturday it was easy for them.
They dont wanna do AFL as a career, there family more then likely does. They just wanna play footy with their mates and get a bit of coin for it.
AFL is a 40 hour a week job now.
Did any of the harlem globe trotters play in the NBA? |
I didn't realise LSD was as so freely available. |
Even trying to look through the prism of possible racial personality traits and differences, that post is pretty much racist. I'm not talking borderline racist or white liberal guilt racist either, I'm talking full blown racial superiority racist.
I think you may even have a point (somewhat) if you discuss the cultural shock of moving from an outback township or Aboriginal settlement into the city, but you're talking about Blacks having an inability to work hard enough for an athletic career. Even setting aside the many, many successful Aboriginal footballers in both the semi and fully professional era and focusing solely on the washouts, I don't think you can simply point to their Aboriginality, either cultural or racial, as the reason for their failure. |
I thought it more of an inarticulate way of stating that -
the adjustment from full-on bush-life in a remote community to full-on city life, and going from getting a kick with your mates to being told you need to fully commit to things that seem unimportant to your known way of life
- is an extremely difficult adjustment to make, and it's understandable that some struggle to make that adjustment.
The fact that the majority of said remote communities are populated by aboriginal folk is pretty obvious rather than racist I would've thought.
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