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Pies4shaw 
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| qldmagpie67 wrote: | | But I agree with Rudeboy here I don't care what it costs, both have to be on the Collingwood list next year, they suit a need (small forwards) and their names are just too big to pass up. |
Thanks Matty makes plenty of sense in regards to getting them both without selling the farm
I think we will be active in clearing some players this season to many same style and ability. We need to have flair and creativity to go along with our grunt[/quote]
I completely agree with the bit I have bolded. I worry, though, that we seem to have emptied out most of the players with flair and creativity and replaced them, generally speaking, with players with very little of either. That was either a terrible accident or a deliberate strategy. Either way, I think it's reasonably likely we'll see more of it. |
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ronrat
Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: Thailand
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If I had the power to do so I would change the father/son rule. If your father played one game for the club you could be drafted to that club using the last pick available to that club. If that is unfair to some other clubs then bad luck. There is unfairness everywhere. We live in an age of pretend academies, concessions to new clubs & Brisbane were allowed a different salary cap to win their premierships.[/quote]
Wouldn't work. The SA and WA clubs get access to players whose Dads played in the Snaffle and Waffle. You could suddenly have the last 2 rounds of those competitions suddenly have debutants at age 41 etc. The Eagles arranged for Ashley McIntoshs father to sit on the bench in a WAFL game to qualify him.
And what about those players whose Dad played for 2, 3 or even 4 clubs. But never managed 50 at any of them.
If a another club, say the Dogs, were to stupidly put in a a bid 2 rounds higher than the players ratings and they get stuck with you just bid for one of theirs and they are forced to choose. Or they player suddenly takes a gap year or 2 and pisses off to Europe leaving a hole in the list and when they lose patience grab him for nothing when he is delisted.
What disappoints me is Pants Millane was obviously using condoms.
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| ronrat wrote: | | If I had the power to do so I would change the father/son rule. If your father played one game for the club you could be drafted to that club using the last pick available to that club. If that is unfair to some other clubs then bad luck. There is unfairness everywhere. We live in an age of pretend academies, concessions to new clubs & Brisbane were allowed a different salary cap to win their premierships. |
Wouldn't work. The SA and WA clubs get access to players whose Dads played in the Snaffle and Waffle. You could suddenly have the last 2 rounds of those competitions suddenly have debutants at age 41 etc. The Eagles arranged for Ashley McIntoshs father to sit on the bench in a WAFL game to qualify him.
And what about those players whose Dad played for 2, 3 or even 4 clubs. But never managed 50 at any of them.
If a another club, say the Dogs, were to stupidly put in a a bid 2 rounds higher than the players ratings and they get stuck with you just bid for one of theirs and they are forced to choose. Or they player suddenly takes a gap year or 2 and pisses off to Europe leaving a hole in the list and when they lose patience grab him for nothing when he is delisted.
What disappoints me is Pants Millane was obviously using condoms.[/quote]
It would work. They would be my rules. Under those rules the father/son would only apply to AFL teams not to state based teams.
I don't understand why a father playing for more than one team is an issue.The draftee has a choice as to nominating & can chose whether he wants to nominate a club under that rule, just as Marc Murphy decided not to nominate Brisbane. |
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Presti35 
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If we can get these 2 for good value, it will help make not having a first rounder a bit better.
Just have to hope no one bids on either, so we can get them at the cheapest price. Its doubtful, but you never know.
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Dave The Man 
Joined: 01 Apr 2005
Location: Someville, Victoria, Australia
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| mattys123 wrote: | The rated draft value of either player won't be known until after the TAC Cup finals, but we will have a better idea in a few weeks once the national championships is over.
At the moment, at highest, Brown is rated a late 2nd round pick and Daicos 3rd or maybe even 4th round.
So as it stands we can easily afford both, even without a first or second round pick to play with.
Of course there's always the possibility we trade players away to get a 1st or 2nd round pick which would make it easier to get both youngsters.
Brown is more of a midfielder than Daicos at this point, but both have shown ability to kick goals in the small forward role.
But I agree with Rudeboy here I don't care what it costs, both have to be on the Collingwood list next year, they suit a need (small forwards) and their names are just too big to pass up. |
They sound they are Good Enough but Neither are Automatic Picks yet
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ronrat
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It would work. They would be my rules. Under those rules the father/son would only apply to AFL teams not to state based teams.
I don't understand why a father playing for more than one team is an issue.The draftee has a choice as to nominating & can chose whether he wants to nominate a club under that rule, just as Marc Murphy decided not to nominate Brisbane.[/quote]
So you think the SA based sides would give up on the likes of the Cornes Bros because the Dad played 6 games for North but 300 for a SANFL team. Dream on. Murphy was an exception. His Dad never played in Brisbane.He new someone would draft him. You can't rule out out one third of the clubs and expect them to roll over.
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| ronrat wrote: | It would work. They would be my rules. Under those rules the father/son would only apply to AFL teams not to state based teams.
I don't understand why a father playing for more than one team is an issue.The draftee has a choice as to nominating & can chose whether he wants to nominate a club under that rule, just as Marc Murphy decided not to nominate Brisbane. |
So you think the SA based sides would give up on the likes of the Cornes Bros because the Dad played 6 games for North but 300 for a SANFL team. Dream on. Murphy was an exception. His Dad never played in Brisbane.He new someone would draft him. You can't rule out out one third of the clubs and expect them to roll over.[/quote]
Dream on? I thought that I was hallucinating when I read your post.I am really not sure what you are arguing. All I said was that if I had the power to change the rules I would do so.
How is what SA clubs think relevant to that? |
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SteveH67
Joined: 17 Jul 2004
Location: Canberra, Australia
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You can mark down Gavin Brown's son, as our F/S pick this year.
Apparently starred in the U18s this week.
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Doc63
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Why would either of them want to come to Collingwood and have their careers ruined by Nathan Numpty?
If they have any brains, they'll nominate for the draft.
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Presti35
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| Presti35 wrote: | http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-06-13/u18s-will-brodie-stars-but-metro-pip-country-in-thriller
| Quote: | | U18s: Magpie father-son prospect Cal Brown stars as Vic Metro prevails in thriller |
That's some good news for the day.
J. Daicos did not play with a hand niggle. |
He'll be pushing shit uphill to move Blair out of his mortgaged spot I'd say....front-n-centre is so 1995....
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melliot
Joined: 07 Apr 2006
Location: Bendigo
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| Cfc site article suggesting Brown may be a first rounder. |
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derkd
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| Presti35 wrote: | http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-06-13/u18s-will-brodie-stars-but-metro-pip-country-in-thriller
| Quote: | | U18s: Magpie father-son prospect Cal Brown stars as Vic Metro prevails in thriller |
That's some good news for the day.
J. Daicos did not play with a hand niggle. |
Don't want young Brown playing too many "blinders" or we may not be able to afford him.
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Bob Sugar
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Just read on BF that the Marvels son is playing on Sunday, I hole both boys blitz, I don't care if their price goes up, I need something to get me excited this year.
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stui magpie 
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I maintain we need to draft both of these boys, none of this bullshit list management crap, there's still room for sentimentality in football.
FFS, If supporters all used their rational brain we wouldn't be supporters.
Draft em both, find a way to make it happen Collingwood.
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