#19 Andrew Williams

HAL · Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:47 pm

Since when? A lot of people say that about him.

Joel · Joined: 23 Mar 1999 Location: Mornington Peninsula

I reckon people put too much into the 'crunching' he got. If he can't cop a bit of a crunch then he is soft as butter and shouldn't be playing.

Williams must go, he has no future at Collingwood.

Clokey · Joined: 03 Sep 2004

I don't know how you can say he can't get much bigger? If he does more intense weight training with a better diet age is no concern here.

Joel · Joined: 23 Mar 1999 Location: Mornington Peninsula

Why would we want him to get bigger?

Clokey · Joined: 03 Sep 2004

Help him take contested marks.

Johnson#26 · Joined: 18 Dec 2003

He copped two crunches ina few weeks (B.Hall and Hawks) and since then he has done jack all really. I think Brad Scott is the culprit. He roughed him up in round 4 03 and he has never been the same...

Joel · Joined: 23 Mar 1999 Location: Mornington Peninsula

Like I said J26, people look too much into that. He is soft as if he can't handle that sorta crap. I think that has been the excuse we've been using for the last year, and it no longer cuts it.

Clokey, he can take contested marks, as is, but he is weak as water.

Clokey · Joined: 03 Sep 2004

Well size could make his less soft. Hardness has alot to do with self confidence, if he is bigger he will be more confident to go in hard and believe he won't get hurt. Or not care.

Yeah I don't think many people agree with me on this but just what I think but you guys aer cool.

Dale61 · Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 7:06 pm

For a lot of people, this is what they would like to see, preferably sooner rather than later!

Di Di Didak · Joined: 31 Mar 2003 Location: Melbourne

I think everyone judges him too harshly.

He needs the confidence of his team-mates and support staff restored and i think he will be a good player. Early on there were signs that he and embley were similair players.

We all know embley has transgressed into a great player, and i think Williams can still do a good job for us.

Its similair to the time that Schauble got knocked in the kidneys by Dean Wallis, until he switched clubs he was useless.

That time Williams got Ko'd at Colonial against Sydney wrecked him. He just needs a go. Get off his back.

Dale61 · Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 7:26 pm

Di Di Didak · Joined: 31 Mar 2003 Location: Melbourne

My bad dale!!

I remember him gettin hit in that game when nick davis kicked the winning goal for them...

Can someone tell me if i was seeing things, im pretty sure. I remember the Hawthorn one too...

Dale61 · Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 7:38 pm

It was the knock against the Dawks that started his downward spiral. He was attempting to mark when, I think it was either Picioane or Lekkas, pole-axed him from behind.

rand corp · Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Location: south east asia

If Williams is still on our list after October 29th I will be stunned/amazed/bewildered/disollusioned. He is an absolute dud.