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WhyPhilWhy?
WhyPhilWhy?
Joined: 09 Oct 2001
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What I don't understand is where the #$%@ the other 2 magpie players are when there's 3 defenders hanging off Cloke.
There has to be a way to exploit that, doesn't there? (he said with his vast experience of caching AFL footy...) |
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
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| Johnno75 wrote: | | Oh please Bucks, pretty please Bucks with sugar and cherries on top. Next week can we stop the uncontested crap and go back to some old fashioned man on man stuff just to see how we go. Each Crows player could have build a unit at Etihad today with the amount of space they had. |
I can wait. I am a very patient . |
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Side By Side
Joined: 30 Jun 2005
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| Johnno75 wrote: | | Oh please Bucks, pretty please Bucks with sugar and cherries on top. Next week can we stop the uncontested crap and go back to some old fashioned man on man stuff just to see how we go. Each Crows player could have build a unit at Etihad today with the amount of space they had. |
yeah im over that too, and they jump on the wrong player! go to the receiver!
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Kosh
Joined: 25 Apr 2013
Location: Carlton, Melbourne
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| Mugwump wrote: | Honestly, given where they are at in their development, and where we're at, that was probably a result to be expcted. We really need to improve our disposal, but that'll probably come with greater experience, cohesion and confidence. The endeavour was there all night, and it was a relief to see Swanny starting to look dangerous up forward as the forward line started to clear out a bit.
I have no doubt we badly missed Sidebottom's distribution and running pressure, and Sinclair as well. That hammy is starting to look a pretty career limiting.
Grundy was bloody brave, rucking all night against an AA ruckmanFrost also did ok after a poor start, and Langdon continues to get a lot of it. Broomhead also did a bit, hope he can grow consistency. We also matched them in CPs, so credit there.
The worries ? we were killed out of the kiddle in the first half, and pretty shambolic across half forward as the i50s showed in the first half. |
I agree with a lot of this, especially re Sinkers. We are going to have to make some tough decisions about some of these players who can't get on the park. Having said that I can't quite remember if this is Sinker's last year on contract.
I was pleased with the Ox. I am not sure that he will make it because he doesn't seem to be a one touch player, but he is certainly playing his heart out. Grundy was fantastic. He was outplayed on th day but he will be a beauty. We really need Witts back as first Ruck. My own view is that Grundy will eventually be a dangerous forward who subs in the ruck occasionally.
The disappointing thing for me was the disposal. Good Grief it was woeful at times. Adams was particularly terrible. I just don't see a way around this until some of our early draft picks start to a play regular senior football.
I actually think that I will be spending more time at the Scoobs than the seniors this year, just to keep track of the new boys.
On a final note, the umpiring at Ruck contests continues to mystify me. |
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RudeBoy
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We were smashed, plain and simple.
Time to pull the pin on some players who have promised so much for years, but cannot be relied upon to perform consistently.
I'd drop Fasolo, Goldsack, Varcoe........and Cloke.
Witts must play next week before Grundy gets rooted. He gave his all, but needs another ruckman in the side.
We need to play some of our young talented players next week in De Goey, Freeman, Moore and Witts. I'd also recall Dwyer.
I am seriously worried that the Pies have Darcy Moore penciled in as a defender, when we are crying out for a decent key forward. FFS, play him as a forward. That's all I can think of right now. I'm bitterly disappointed in our performance. |
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thompsoc
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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Can someone please explain why picking up Varcoe was better than taking a punt with the early second round pick that we had in the 2014 draft?
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BHPIE
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Broken Hill
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| Well fought out boys,...down side was disposal , still..a few to come back , I think we r on the up |
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The_Staunton 
Joined: 30 Jul 2007
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Am in America so didn't see the game, but hearing the disposal thing is STILL an issue
Adams is just a shocker - the trade of him for Shaw is looking more and more awful as time goes on
Could we pick up ONE player from another club that improves the side?
Not really in the mood to do the usual rant and rave about the coach
Very flat, reckon it'll be 2-3 years (and a new coach) before we're any good again. We haven't moved beyond the Underpants Gnomes guide to building a Premiership side
1. High Draft Picks!
2. ?
3. Premiership!
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Mugwump
Joined: 28 Jul 2007
Location: Between London and Melbourne
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| thompsoc wrote: | | Can someone please explain why picking up Varcoe was better than taking a punt with the early second round pick that we had in the 2014 draft? |
Nope, I don't usually bag our players but Varcoe has shown little leadership so far.
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simon tonna
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Dead set headless chickens when the pressure is on! We cannot get a effective disposal by foot, hand pass or turn over when the game is there to challenge for. Opposition use us as a yard stick as to see were they are at, to see what they need to do to and who to play to beat harder more competitive outfits as they know we just can't compete when the press is on. Opposition Coaches are finding out more about thier own teams than what our coach is currently doing. we cannot compete with atleast 14 other clubs.we are developing but very slowly. Our skills need improving under pressure we need cleaner one touch players to clear the packs. We don't work as a unit for each other in clearances, no sheparding, blocking or smothering. Training and practice matches are not even close to what insight we may need to see we're we are at. I hope Buckley will wake up and realises what to do to improve the club on the field. But I can't see it happening until our newbies are match fit and by some miracle we can see some improvement.
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leonmagic 
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| Piesnchess wrote: | | leonmagic wrote: | Anyone who thinks we weren't "flogged" needs to get their head out of the sand. We were annihilated in every way. 26pt margin is hilarious.
Understand its a developing team, but we were smashed. It feels like an 80pt thumping. |
I guess you would have loved us to be thumped by 80 plus, like Norf got smashed by them by 77, and Norf made the finals last year. Jeezus, talk bout glass half empty, the crows would be spewing they didn't win by more, we did fight it out, at the end, and yes, we are a very young developing team, against a much older hard nut side, with much more experience.  |
Why would I have loved that? |
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Bob Sugar
Joined: 11 Feb 2010
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Things will improve next year under a different coach.
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Damien 
Me Noah & Flynn @ the G
Joined: 21 Jan 1999
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| The_Staunton wrote: | Am in America so didn't see the game, but hearing the disposal thing is STILL an issue
Adams is just a shocker - the trade of him for Shaw is looking more and more awful as time goes on
Could we pick up ONE player from another club that improves the side?
Not really in the mood to do the usual rant and rave about the coach
Very flat, reckon it'll be 2-3 years (and a new coach) before we're any good again. We haven't moved beyond the Underpants Gnomes guide to building a Premiership side
1. High Draft Picks!
2. ?
3. Premiership! |
Didn't see the game but still prepared to make these statements?
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Damien
Me Noah & Flynn @ the G
Joined: 21 Jan 1999
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| RudeBoy wrote: | We were smashed, plain and simple.
Time to pull the pin on some players who have promised so much for years, but cannot be relied upon to perform consistently.
I'd drop Fasolo, Goldsack, Varcoe........and Cloke.
Witts must play next week before Grundy gets rooted. He gave his all, but needs another ruckman in the side.
We need to play some of our young talented players next week in De Goey, Freeman, Moore and Witts. I'd also recall Dwyer.
I am seriously worried that the Pies have Darcy Moore penciled in as a defender, when we are crying out for a decent key forward. FFS, play him as a forward. That's all I can think of right now. I'm bitterly disappointed in our performance. |
Drop all those guys and throw Moore to the wolves?
Seriously some people here have no idea.
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The_Staunton
Joined: 30 Jul 2007
Location: Hobart
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| Damien wrote: | | The_Staunton wrote: | Am in America so didn't see the game, but hearing the disposal thing is STILL an issue
Adams is just a shocker - the trade of him for Shaw is looking more and more awful as time goes on
Could we pick up ONE player from another club that improves the side?
Not really in the mood to do the usual rant and rave about the coach
Very flat, reckon it'll be 2-3 years (and a new coach) before we're any good again. We haven't moved beyond the Underpants Gnomes guide to building a Premiership side
1. High Draft Picks!
2. ?
3. Premiership! |
Didn't see the game but still prepared to make these statements? |
Of course, I read everything and listened to it on a stream, just couldn't see it in America...
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